Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

https://lemmy.ml/post/16457773

Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts - Lemmy

OOBE\BYPASSNRO and fuck Microsoft
That no longer works sadly

Unless I missed something, the article states as follows

Another method of bypassing the account lockdown still exists. You simply have to enter OOBE\BYPASSNRO in the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup process, which allows you to skip the connection to the Internet and thus also the link to a Microsoft account.

Tried that a few months ago with a factory new machine and it did not work. Though it might work on Pro machines

That’s interesting! I wonder if they are locking down factory installations.

About a month ago I was able to do it with a fresh install of Pro in a VM, I’ll do a quick test and see if it works on Home…and it works too. I had to disconnect the network and then run the OOBE\BYPASSNRO command, it rebooted and gave me the continue without network and limited setup options.

That’s super weird, but disconnecting the network is the only way that you can reliably setup the machine without an account in my experience
Worked for me last week
You just need quotes on it, ms fucked up the directory traversal “oobe/bypassnro.cmd” worked for me setting up a user machine yesterday
Of course they did, urg
I had to refresh a pc with Windows 11 recently (unfortunately) and I can confirm it works, but I found it only works on a completely clean install, and you have to run the command IMMEDIATELY when starting setup. I had to re-install twice, because the first time I connected to Wi-Fi, and even running the command and disabling wifi, it still demanded an account. I had to wipe the drive an install a second time, then run the command right at the start of the setup process, before doing anything. THEN it let me skip connecting to internet and logging into an account.
Just burn the ISO to a USB drive with Rufus, a window full of options with check boxes will pop up, with a lot of options to turn installation bullshit.
But why don’t you just turn off the internet when setting up Windows? You don’t need any hacks for that
I believe that one was patched a while ago
Never heard of it being patched so can’t tell. Btw was the old one with administrator command prompt patched too?
It worked as of six months ago, but it is possible that was patched in this recent “fix”.

They did mostly. It is still possible (but can be extremely frustrating if your timing is off by fractions of a second) to disconnect a LAN cable or USB-LAN adapter (DON’T sign into a wifi network) at the right moment and cause it to ask for a name for the user account. I have taken to calling this the “AA Pullout Method.” My co-workers and myself are crass de-gens and sometimes have to trade off trying to get it to work and made it a game to see who can get it to work in the least amount of tries. Get the “title” of “pullout king.” Did you need to know this? No, but it is no less dumb than the steps below and attempts needed to just make a fucking local user on Windows 10/11 (though 10 seems to be much easier to get around).

You have to first fail at signing into a MS account. Which you can just type the letter “a” instead of an actual email address (seriously don’t have to type anything else, not even adding “@email.whatever” is needed) as if you are just using a preexisting account and not pick the “create a MS account.” It will then ask for your MS account password and just again type the letter “a.” It will then give a “Oops something went wrong” message. This is where the unplugging the cable is needed. The timing is that you need to pull the cable basically right as you let go of your left-click on the “Retry” button. So like if you are using a regular mouse it won’t register that you clicked the button until the moment you have lifted your finger. But if you fail to time it just right, it will either just cycle back to the “Sign into existing MS account” screen where you used the first “a” instead of an email. Or it will give a different message about not being online and take you back to the “Let’s get you online” network screen with your LAN adapter and wifi networks. However if you time it correctly, it will just ask for the name of the user and password.

If you forget to plug the LAN cable back in after getting the “name of user” screen, it will give the screen about not being online. If you are able to get the local user name screen, just plug your LAN back in and it will just ask the rest of the setup questions like normal. And you now have a local user account. But again, shit is super touchy about the timing. So it could take quite a number of retries to get it to work. If you have ever used the PSP/PS3/PS Vita “Hen” non-permanent “custom firmwares,” then you might know the struggle (as the hack may fail to launch until entirely too many attempts if you haven’t used them).

Just used this bypass 2 days ago. I’d recommend people download the current W11 installer so that the work around always works as long as you keep the device away from Internet until the OS is installed
A few months back I installed home edition and this workaround did not work. The installer would not allow me to proceed until it could verify with Microsoft.
Win11 doesn’t let you past setup if you dont have an internet connection.
I believe it wasn’t the case in the past. Well that sucks. I’m glad I don’t use Windows for anything except gaming now
The W11 installer sadly doesn’t allow that anymore with the current versions. If you have that older installer, keep it safely archived.

lack of local accounting means its no longer your operating system, youre now using a perpetually required service from microsoft.

the walled garden is putting the last bricks in place. hope all you windows fans are ...happy... asking apple microsoft for permission to use your own hardware.

It’s a real shame. I guess I’ll be running Linux now.
Same here. I’ll pirate the security updates for the next 3 years and then switch. Fuck Windows 11 and fuck Microsoft.
I switched to Bazzite not long after the Recall AI announcement, shrinking my Windows partition to leave it for just VR stuff which currently doesn’t work well outside of Windows, at least on my system. It’s pretty great! Not perfect, but the problems I have on Bazzite are similar enough in quantity and degree to problems I had on Windows that I’ve basically switched out one set of weird OS quirks for another. The big difference is now I don’t have to think about the OS being disrespectful corporate spyware.
That seems like a solid OS. It’s there an Ubuntu based variant?

@cyborganism @Onihikage Bazzite is an immutable distro based on Fedora and aimed at gaming. Closest you probably get in Ubuntu world is Core Desktop? But, that seems more aimed at IoT and tiny devices rather than gaming PCs

https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-core-an-immutable-linux-desktop

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Not that I know of; Bazzite is completely based on Fedora Atomic Desktops, which are an immutable type of distro that makes the core OS a read-only image that all gets updated separately from system apps. The Ubuntu equivalent of Fedora Atomic Desktops is Ubuntu Core, but I don’t know if Bazzite has a Ubuntu Core-based equivalent. Bazzite is released by a group called Universal Blue, which makes prepackaged OS builds based on Fedora Atomic Desktops, with particular focus areas. Bazzite focuses on including all gaming-related tweaks, apps, configs, and optimizations out of the box, Aurora focuses on general desktop PC functionality, and Bluefin focuses on productivity, but in the end they’re all Atomic/Immutable distros based on Fedora. It’s worth poking through it all and picking one that best suits your needs.
Fedora Atomic Desktops

What parts of the immutable OS are read only? Like filesystem wise? I’m not sure I really get it.

The basic of immutable desktops is that every system file (what’s outside your home directory (folder) ) is readonly, you can install apps and through the app store.

But I’d say Linux mint (a Non-immutable) distro is what you should try first, because it’s more user-friendly and easier to get help for.

Oh I’ve been using Linux for over 20 years. That’s not an issue.

I have a better idea now of what an immutable distro is thanks to your explanation. I don’t know if that’s what I would want after all.

I think I prefer the freedom of being able to modify my system files and configs as I need to customize my system as I see fit, even if it meansb potentially breaking something.

You can edit system files with layering, but it’s not as straightforward
You can still block it easily with the command prompt (Shift+F10 during the install) as mentioned. But don't let that stop you from switching to Linux if you feel like it.
Didn’t they block the Shift-F10 workaround in 24H2?

hope all you windows fans are …happy… asking apple microsoft for permission to use your own hardware.

It’s been this way for decades, really. Apple, Google, MS, etc. Even if they let you use it without an account, they’ll literally never stop pressuring you and annoying you into signing into an account.

Apple doesn’t actually make it at all difficult to use a Mac or iOS device without an Apple account. You’re asked once during setup and that’s it. At most there’ll be a red dot in Settings>iCloud.
They do, actually. There’s a bunch of first party software you can’t remove, perpetual notifications you can’t clear about setting up iCloud, etc.

There’s one notice, and it’s in the System Settings app. And it’s a little red dot beside the iCloud section. That’s not really the same league as what Microsoft is doing, or Even Google’s nag to use Chrome across all their Web properties.

You’re right about the first-party apps that you can’t remove, but it’s also not the same as, eg, Edge where those apps are used constantly and your preferences are reset on every update.

On my Mac I set my browser to Firefox in 2018. It’s never reverted to Safari, not once, where Windows really wants me to use Edge and goes so far as to not just reset it periodically, but also direct start menu searches and in-app web links to an ms-edge: url instead of using the http handler.

Apple has problems, but this isn’t one of them.

That’s not really the same league as what Microsoft is doing

I didn’t say it was. It is intentionally and perpetually annoying, nonetheless.

They are none of those. You’re just lying now. Google ad boy.

You can’t use a lot of apps without it

So sure you can, but it isn’t an awesome experience

This personnel computer
We’re all MS personnel

This is awfully deep. We live in a society.

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Wait, a proprietary OS is someone else’s computer?

Apple doesn’t require you to make an Apple ID to use a Mac lol
Something tells me that could easily change.
Sure it could, but I think Apple makes so much on overcharging for the machine itself they don’t need to be so aggressive over data collection just logically.

Sadly I think they have to aim to do both, to make the most money as a publically traded company.

Last I heard Apple was protecting it’s users from Facebook collecting their data… by being the ones who collect it instead. Maybe that not quite right as I don’t listen to news on Apple (outside of their opposition to right to repair).

But apparently you DO need an Apple ID to access an Apple Notes file that was shared to your Android by your crazy ex who doesn’t know that without an iPhone you won’t be able to read their undoubtedly unhinged, rambling guilt trip. Thanks Apple!
Hate it when that happens
The Cask of Amontillado?
We would have that freedom with Android too if those stupid banking apps stopped trying to dictate what you can run on your hardware & Google giving them more features to do so.
This☝️person knows what we are talking about!

Use shift f10 and edit the registry… They aren’t disabling that until they have a better solution for autopilot.

May not work for home editions…