Stop making me download your fucking app just to look at something I should be able to see in a browser
@heygeorgie I really don't like smartphone applications that behave like HTML.
@kotaro as someone that's had to build it, i don't like when html is made to behave as an app @heygeorgie
@mensrea @heygeorgie There may indeed be such a situation.
I don't think that everything should be a web application either.
I would like to experience something dynamic and other than the purpose realized by Excel or IM, since it is implemented in a native application.
@mensrea @kotaro Yup I agree. And I think it’s also the case that some websites are *perfectly fine* and I enjoy the experience, and the app doesn’t offer additional features or benefits. So why would I use it?
@heygeorgie @mensrea @kotaro I hate to be forced to use apps too. Sometimes I'm in a hurry and just want to look at *one* single piece of info, without having to download an app. Sometimes I actually downloaded the app and think that the experience is worse. And sometimes I tried the app and discovered that, while the website is free, in the app I have to pay for almost everything (yes, Atlassian, I'm talking to you). I'm grateful for the "view desktop site" button, but this still annoys me
@sabrinaweb71 @heygeorgie @mensrea An app-based paywall, huh?
I would be too scared to go near it.
@kotaro @mensrea @heygeorgie sort of. I code as a hobby, so I use jira at a personal level, to keep track of what I want to write. In the website I can sort the issues as I like, with the oldest on top, because they will never be done if they stay at the bottom. In the app, even reordering the issues needs a module to be downloaded (and paid. *Monthly*.)
I use jira in the browser, with "show desktop site" on, but I still hate when it invites me to download the app instead
@sabrinaweb71 that's the business model, push everyone to subscriptions for everything @kotaro @heygeorgie
@mensrea @sabrinaweb71 @heygeorgie Jira. Isn't that exactly the kind of "project management application" that I personally don't see the point of implementing in a native app.
How is it any different from sharing a spreadsheet?
@kotaro @mensrea @heygeorgie I don't use it for project management, actually. I use it to keep track of features I would like to implement one day, I don't think I could add a long description on a spreadsheet
@sabrinaweb71 @kotaro generally called the "backlog" in industry
@mensrea @sabrinaweb71 Yes. Yes. In our country, we also have a project management software called "Backlog".
@sabrinaweb71 @mensrea @kotaro At some point I know I’ll get infuriated and just go back to a garbled mess inside a .txt in protest
@heygeorgie @sabrinaweb71 @mensrea Going back to the beginning, I am sure that engineers around the world will agree with your point of view.
Fortunately, thin content tools for "information sharing for information sharing's sake," such as project management software, are now being offered as SaaS.
Because they invade our devices, we need the dynamic and intense experience that only native applications can provide.
Using Adobe as an example, if all they want to do is work on generative AI, their web apps are enough to satisfy us.