DeaDveyToxic linux communities moment:
I’ve found this community to be extremely helpful I hope it stays this way
I asked about servers once and they told me don’t host a server under any circumstance.
u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)“If you don’t know to do X, don’t even bother learning.”
“Don’t learn anything, just give up.” Great, thanks, guys.
SturgiesYrFaseIt’s one of the things that I like the most about lemmy over reddit. The reddit linux community was toxic, insular and gatekeepy, even as a moderately experienced linux user I had difficulty getting help.
“Learn how to Google noob!”
Fuck sakes, I just spent several hours deep diving forums and Web search results looking for an answer to my question, and the only thing I could find that was exactly my problem was concluded by OP editing their post to say “Ah, never mind, figured it out.” And not including the solution…
LizIt should be legal to hunt that person down and clamp a lobster to their nipples.
Oh there’s a special place in hell, where Satan from the movie Little Nicky is, waiting for these people…with lobsters and a pineapple.
Jumutaprobably because lemmy’s pretty small compared to places like reddit and because everyone sees the same content with the same sorting, places like reddit make a few “help” requests visible and make them feel unimportant
We should do our part in reporting unhelpful users. Especially those that recommend Arch or more advanced distros to beginners.
X is deprecated, you should have moved into systemd-Y
Oh fuck you… take your upvote and know that you have hurt my soul.
X is deprecated, you should move to Wayland.
You should use Wayland, not x
comador Don’t forget Pulse audio!
Pipewire’s the new hotness
I will, as soon as Pop!_OS moves to it.
hitagiinstall gentoo
deegeeseIf I want to run games in Steam on NVidia GPU, with KDE and Wayland, what distribution would you recommend?
Windows XP
☂️-they ported kde wayland to xp? wow!
TashCheck out one of the Fedora spins if you want to go Wayland.
I have Fedora KDE Plasma 40 on a laptop with a nVidia chipset, (I need to have it defaulted to Nouveau and the base Intel chipset). Maybe by the middle of next month they MIGHT have something cobbled together to get a decently working experience for the majority of users. Otherwise, don’t be surprised if your screen flickers, has missing parts of your display, or just a black and blank screen.
Wayland and nVidia - two piles of stupid that are meant for each other.
Garuda. Gaming/perf focus, with lots of built-in niceties (like btrfs snapshots on upgrade, proton GE, etc)
I just use Debian, KDE is an option during install and I use it. However, my brain lacks wrinkles so I’m sure it could be “better” on a more purpose built gaming distro. Over the decades of on and off Linux use, I always end up on Debian because it feels like solid ground to me
At this point with Wayland, none of them…
Technically not a distro, but give Bazzite a try. It’s probably the most handsfree gaming experience on Linux. Even Valve employees have made contributions to it.
This is the year of the linux desktop
Joanie ParkerJust learn to search for the proper Terminal/ Konsole command to copy and paste what you want just like the rest of us.
That’s how you Linux… Right? My dudes? Right?
No better way to learn how something works than to be forced to repair it from a broken state 😎
Pretty much. It’s what makes all those Linux Experts so Expert! Besides, ain’t no one got time to memorize and understand what all that stuff does…
explodicleIn the time it takes to do that, the first half of the stuff is different!
🇸🇵🇪🇨🇺🇱🇦🇹🇪🇷I’m thinking of using my second SSD to install Linux, is Arch actually good or just a meme?
perryDepends on your use case. Arch is a DIY distro but is well maintained and has the latest packages on their repo. Its user centric, unlike many distributions that are user friendly. You could read the archwiki to find out if its for you
I used Ubuntu for about a decade and I still use a Linux system via SSH to run code, so I’d like the challenge. I just wanted to know if it’s worth the work or just a meme, thanks!
It’s a really good, slightly bare bones initially but completely modular/customizable. If it’s your first foray into Linux something like Debian, Mint or PopOS would be slightly more comfortable initially
If you’re on Windows currently and it supports Hyper-V then I recommend using it to try a few distros out. I liked using Kubuntu 23 recently.
It is genuinely amazing, there’s a reason us Arch users never shut up about it. The setup/configuration in the beginning will seem daunting but once you have everything the way you want it is a smooth an enjoyable experience.
I’ve spent over a decade in Ubuntu and using ssh terminals to run code, but I’m looking for big boy Linux. I think I’ll try it out.
If that’s the case it should be a much easier transition. I also came from Ubuntu originally.
You will notice the difference right away. Everything is always up to date so you’re not waiting half a year for updates and there’s no big upgrade transitions between major versions. And pacman is a lot faster than apt in general.
Plus with the AUR you’ll never touch another PPA again. Almost anything you could possibly want is in there, even some of the most obscure/specific things.
I do recommend doing everything from scratch if you have the time, but if not EndeavourOS is literally just preconfigured Arch (and I do mean literally, it uses the same repos) so that’s also a solid option.
That sounds amazing actually. And a good challenge, I’ll give it a go when I get my computer back next week.
Use something easier to get started with like Ubuntu or Debian. Arch isn’t that great. I’ve installed it a few times as a VM but to me it brings nothing new to the mix. I kinda view Arch fanatics like apple fan bois or beer snobs. Kinda fun to laugh at for being so pretentious. After a while though you wish they would quite hot boxing their own hubris.
It brings nothing new to the mix until you want something that’s up to date or something that’s not in the main repos and now you have to track down a PPA or manually install a deb file and keep it updated yourself instead of being able to use the package manager.
Rtfm noob
I’m using Ubuntu derivatives since many years. I’ve looked at Arch in virtual machines and was very much lost. Even with Manjaro I didn’t get along. I’m still testing EndeavourOS, which looks promising.
So to me, Arch is too much hands on for my lazy ass. However, if you like to nerd yourself into it, it’s awesome (I think).
Arch is great, but not very beginner friendly. It might be better to start with somethin debian-based like linux mint, and install arch once you get used to using the commandline and know where to find answers to your questions etc.
i like it but i think beginners should start out with" just works" distros
For beginners, don’t go with Arch. Debian or Linux Mint for normal stuff, Bazzite if you’re going to game. Once you want to get to know the internals of a linux distribution, you can go for an unstable distro like Arch, Gentoo, or way lower with Linux From Scratch (LFS).
P.S Arch is a meme because it was hard to use and required the terminal, but it lost that spot to NixOS.
You can start with Endeavor OS KDE… it’s an arch system with Endeavor OS package managment added on top. So the Arch experience is the same… without the pain of installation.
Plus it has some cool wallpapers.
Possibly linuxBuy a different GPU
I’ll let myself out
Ah yes, a perfectly normal thing to do after I’ve just spent thousands on my NVIDIA GPU. Love this comment when it comes up.
This is complicated. Firstly outside of Wayland Nvidia works pretty great and has worked great for me 21 years on the other hand the amount spent is kinda irrelevant using different hardware is often actually the correct advice. Often though the logical move is use Windows on your effectively Windows only laptop and if you want to run Linux buy something compatible next go round.
Some hardware just isn’t supported and given hostile to indifferent oems it will always be so
I agree, and it’s been a fine experience with nvidia on Xorg. “Buy new hardware” is not what someone getting into Linux should hear though if we want to increase the number of Linux users.
If your hardware isn’t supported what are people supposed to say? Gosh I’m sorry volunteers didn’t donate more free work to make that shitty laptop work let me now assemble a strike force of expert programs to crack that problem by next week? Labor is a finite resource especially free labor.
TimeSquirrelI mean, you wouldn't buy a sports car and then a month later post to a forum asking questions about how to tow a 40 foot camper with it, would you?
The problem is that a lot of users aren’t building a new machine for Linux, but converting an existing Windows laptop or desktop. In my case, I’d already bought an Nvidia card about a year before I decided to switch to Linux for gaming. Not ideal, of course, but it work a good 95% of the time and I can’t really afford to get a different card right now. I’ll definitely keep it in mind for my next pc upgrade, though.
It isn’t wrong though. Don’t give Nvidia your money
He said X, not Wayland.
This has been a trope since Linux existed.
"Linux doesn’t work with my hardware*
“Well, just spend hundreds or thousands on new hardware so you can run this free OS!”