jeffwMaine’s Health Department Rarely Investigates When Residents Wander Away From Their Care Facilities
NegativeInfI live next to one in Texas. On numerous occasions a very exasperated young lady has pounded on my door asking if I’d seen an old man wandering about.
What is this news format with the headline as an image macro in meme format. That’s genius.
CrackhappyThis is precisely how my grandfather died. The VA knew he had severe dementia but weren’t paying attention and he wandered away and ended up passing away. My family sued the VA, not for money, but for them to tighten up their rules about dealing with veterans with dementia. We won, although I’ve never followed up to see if there was any significant impact from the rule changes.
Why don’t they have cameras on every door that sends an alert and a video of who is going in and out? This seems like a solved problem. They can even do facial recognition on some of them.
Probably a workers’ rights issue there. Do you want your employer tracking you?
TheFlopsterNo, I don’t. But I already have a workplace with cameras at every entrance and exit, pin pads at every “sensitive” door, and a name badge with rfid in it so they can track my every movement via sensors in every hallway.
And no, it’s not a prison. (It just feels like one, amiright?)
They probably do, but that’s only helpful if you care what door they left out.
In my experience, there are cameras for ad hoc monitoring and if needed for legal later.
If elopement is a risk, doors are locked except main entries - unless you’re dealing with psych, the all external doors are locked.
Old folk homes and psych… They’re hiring the minimal amount of qualified staff and minimal staff period - and paying equally minimal for a job that can amount to intensive care/security guard/house keeper at an extreme pace… Shits gonna happen.
Honest question, why are people so obsessed with living? I’d want to be euthanized at the first sign of dementia. Just give me like a week to get my affairs in order. It’s bizarre that people would rather exist as mindless husks than die peacefully at a time of their choosing.
Maybe it’s fear. Most humans live and think like animals whose impulse to survive overrides rationality. Or is there another explanation?
Flying SquidI cannot speak for anyone else, but I am an atheist and I do not believe in an afterlife, so I want every single second of life on this planet I can possibly get. I have had a lot of bad things in my life, including ongoing serious health problems. I have been to 10 on the pain scale multiple times. Dementia doesn’t scare me. I understand why some people don’t want to go out that way because it was the way my father went out, but he went out angry because he was an angry man and eventually didn’t even know why he was angry. I certainly understand why Robin Williams chose to end his life because his mind was his gift to the world.
But I’m not like that. I want to be alive as long as I still know what life is.
I’m personally of the opinion that if I (consistently) can’t remember the day before, life isn’t worth living.
Doesn’t matter if I’m happy every day. Because I feel like memories are what make me, me.
But if I can remember a whole week or even a month I’m not so sure anymore. In a week I could at least learn something and recall what I did yesterday and the day before that.
I want to be alive as long as possible.
Why? I understand that you want your body to remain alive even when your existence has become a burden on everyone else and has no meaning or purpose, but I’m asking you why.
I do not believe in an afterlife, so I want every single second of life on this planet I can possibly get
So if there were an afterlife you wouldn’t want to live a life that wasn’t worth living? I don’t get it.
How do you define a life not worth living? Because I lost the genetic lottery in huge ways-
Does that mean reaching 10 on the pain scale every day for a few years due to a rare nerve disorder? Me.
Does that mean not having any solid food apart from a couple of bites with my mouth completely numbed since last August? Also me.
On top of that, I have type II bipolar disorder and no job.
A lot of people would say that life is not living, especially when it’s this nerve disorder.
But I would say it is.
That’s fine, you are the authority on whether your particular life was worth living. The question is why you would want to live if your personality, character, and memories were gone — if you were a burden on those around you and could no longer engage in self-reflection and abstract reasoning. What would be the point?
Because that isn’t what dementia necessarily is. My father recognized me when he was down to doing child-level jigsaw puzzles and even though he had a much more primitive mind, he was still him in essence, that wasn’t gone. Not everything goes in every case.
Would I keep my father alive? No, because he’s not me. I thought we were talking about what I would do with my own life.
And I gave you my answer- I don’t believe in an afterlife, so I don’t want to end my life unless it has to end. It’s not that you’ll never get an answer, it’s that you don’t like the answer you were given.
And I gave you my answer- I don’t believe in an afterlife, so I don’t want to end my life unless it has to end.
WHY???
Because I enjoy living. I’m not sure why that needs to be made clear to you.
This is circular. If you had dementia, you wouldn’t like living, because you’d be a zombie, and even if you did still like living (doubtful), you’d be an enormous burden on those you love.
Yes, again, there is not one type of dementia. Why are you assuming I would only have the kind of dementia where I wasn’t aware I was alive?
And no I wouldn’t be a burden, I’d be in a nursing home as I have already told my family in the event of dementia.
Who is paying for your nursing home??
Do you already have dementia?
I presume you’ve heard of insurance.
Here’s how your answer sounds to me:
“I would rather pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to waste people’s time wiping my ass than help future generations and my loved ones by passing away with my mind still intact at a moment of my choosing.”
So you haven’t heard of insurance?
It sounds like you haven’t heard of insurance. It’s not free. Someone has to pay for it. And afterwards, that money has to be wasted doing exactly what I described.
Ah, I see. Kill myself when I’m old to help the economy.
I think I’ve heard of that somewhere before…
Keeping your mindless body alive helps the economy just fine. What it doesn’t help is your loved ones or hungry children or the rainforest or whatever it is that you care about — which I’m now realizing is nothing. You care about nothing but your own self.
Do explain how my wife and I not paying a small amount a month toward long-term care insurance will help save the rainforest. This should be interesting.
No man don’t waste your life. Euthanization Is for Suckers. Be a man take a boardroom down with you.
Ah, the ‘leave the elders on the ice floe’ method of senior care.
Lmao, why am I not surprised that when I see someplace I grew up around in the news, it’s only for bad reasons? Still sad tho, tbh