Self-Driving Tesla Nearly Hits Oncoming Train, Raises New Concern On Car's Safety

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Self-Driving Tesla Nearly Hits Oncoming Train, Raises New Concern On Car's Safety - Lemmy.zip

Craig Doty II, a Tesla owner, narrowly avoided a collision after his vehicle, in Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode, allegedly steered towards an oncoming train. Nighttime dashcam footage from earlier this month in Ohio captured the harrowing scene: Doty’s Tesla rapidly approaching a train with no apparent deceleration. He insisted his Tesla was in Full Self-Driving mode when it barreled towards the train crossing without slowing down.

If he had time to notice it not slowing down he had time to brake and take it out of full self driving. I understand as someone who is sceptical about the fsd mode that I am more proactive at taking over than those who trust it a little bit more. I just feel if a company tells you to supervise it you should supervise it.

I still find fsd to be very finicky and vastly oversold

If something is sold as fully self driving, I would like to think it should be capable of fully self driving and not a feature that will drive me face first into a train.

Regardless of the naming, because everyone gets so stuck on fucking names and seems to ignore everything else because that makes for a quick comment with a ton of votes and feel good bullshit.

It is sold as a work in progress piece of software that is constantly being updated and still needs to be supervised. It has a ton of warnings about it’s capabilities, and lack thereof when activating it. There is no question when actually setting up FSD in the vehicle that it is something still in testing and not to be treated as a full replacement for paying attention. It constantly watches you and will warn you if you aren’t paying active attention for too long. If you ignore those warnings enough it will deactivate itself, forcing you to drive, and with enough deactivation will remove the capability entirely.

Image of the activation screen.

Image of the free trial page for those that have not purchased it, thereby avoiding notes on the standard sales pages

They’ve even updated the setting in the vehicle to be more specific, showing it as “Full Self-Driving (Supervised)”…
tesla.com/…/GUID-2CB60804-9CEA-4F4B-8B04-09B99136…

All of these reported situations are from people actively ignoring numerous safety and attention warnings, yet no one seems to ever put any blame on the driver in comments or articles. It’s always about blaming everything on Tesla.

Well said and thanks for posting the examples. It’s something that bothers me about any social media kind of site. Especially here on Lemmy. Nobody gives a damn about the incredible amount of negligence the drivers must have. It immediately becomes an anti Elon circlejerk every time.

It’s similar with news articles, which this post doesn’t even link to, most of the articles name drop Tesla or Elon just because otherwise it’s not a story. “Somebody hit a car / person / train because they weren’t paying attention to the road” isn’t story worthy. But as soon as doubt can be cast on an Elon company, it become a must post thing. I can’t stand Musks antics either, but he gets too much free rent in peoples mind. It’s wild

At the same time, there’s too many people who say that Full Self Driving obviously doesn’t mean that the vehicle still fully drive itself. Though for unknown reasons it is totally fine to keep using the name Full Self Driving.

It’s called Full Self Driving (Supervised) nowdays. They changed the name.

The vehicle is capable of driving you to the grocery store on the other side of the city and back, sometimes with zero interventions from the driver. If that’s not Full Self Driving then I don’t know what is.

It's like how they changed the cybertruck windows to Unbreakable Glass (Fragile).
I can’t find any source for that claim
That’s Full Self Driving (Sometimes).
Then what is full self driving to you? How good does the system need to be to qualify?