It's trope discussion Monday! What do you think about fix-it fics? What makes them work for you? Can you recommend a good fix-it fic? 

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@FandomChats I have mixed feelings about fix-it fics. I want good things for my blorbos, but also if things are too easy I generally get bored. Not sure where the line between things are better than canon yay! and too easy is though!

I guess if they characters have genuine reasons they didn't fix it the source material then I want those reasons addressed not just waved off.

@FandomChats Time travel fix its are my least favorite because they tend to fall on the too easy side and generally fail to address the complications of time travel
@FandomChats I love writing them but hesitate to read them lol. What I like is "bittersweet but hopeful resolution to a story that ended sadly but somewhat open-endedly" vibes, rather than "all the bad things have been resolved or ignored and now it's fluff time", and it's easier to calibrate those knobs myself..
@FandomChats Maybe we should define "fix-it" because iirc there was a discussion on here sometime back about "fix-it" having two meanings: 1) fixing the canon because plot holes/some other perceived issues with the story, 2) fixing it so blorbo gets a happy ending

When I think fix-it, it's the latter... (If it's the former, entire swaths of Weiss Kreuz fanfic is a fix it
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What makes a good fix-it is hm, limited in scope. It doesn't fix everything. If it does fix everything, then it's just boring.
@geraineon thank you for explaining 
@FandomChats After OFMD S2’s end, I really needed a fix-it fic! I usually like them, if they are plausible.
@FandomChats yeah, I love them especially as a magnus archives fan
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there are many modes to fix-it fics, and some work better for me than others!

if the fix-it is of the type "canon was wrong, I'm rewriting it the way it SHOULD have been," then the fic writer and I need to agree on whether canon was wrong and what it was wrong about

if the fix-it is of the type "I'm sad my blorbos are dead/evil/miserable, and I want to imagine a version where they get to be happy" then it depends on...a lot of factors, lol

In general I want a fix-it to make sense within canon and with the characters. a "they make a different decision at a pivotal moment" type of fix-it needs to provide lead-up for why they're able to make that different decision in the fic, for example.

and if a story has lots of emotional complexity and darkness in canon, I'm unlikely to enjoy a story that's "everything's happy fluff now :)" because that's tonally jarring! that can be the END to a fix-it, but the more interesting story imo is in seeing how they manage to get there

@FandomChats actually now that I think about it a bit more, a fix-it fic is in some respects just a subset of the canon divergence au fic, one that comes with a particular type of ending specified.

I like canon divergence AUs a lot! but often imo it's so much fun to see things go /differently/ bad, instead of fixing all the problems!!

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but I also think it depends a lot on the canon, for me. like, is canon saying interesting things and drawing together compelling thematic links by depicting dark things happening to my blorbos? if so then I am very attached to that, actually!

but if I want to argue with canon about whether, for example, a character's death was actually important for the story being told....then yes I'm all about the fix-it that makes that character stay alive

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but ALSO. sometimes I do just want to read my blorbos going on that long journey to eventually reach the happiness that canon denied them 🥲

@FandomChats I love all sorts of fix-it fics :) I don't consider them as replacing canon but as a what-if, a way to explore characters and the experiences/ relationships shaping them. Time travel fix-it fics additionally have signif. character growth and redemption, often bringing relationships to a depth that was impossible in canon. I also enjoy fics with little angst bc the contrast with canon is always present in my mind and gives any fluff or bamf content a bittersweet hurt/comfort note.
@thalassa @FandomChats I read those fics differently but your point about character development is very helpful to something I've been trying to figure out! Thank you!
@Forestofglory @FandomChats Oh, I'm glad! :) What were you trying to figure out if you don't mind sharing?
@thalassa @FandomChats I was trying to figure out why some fics felt 'too nice" and didn't land for me and I think character development is a key factor. Stories don't need conflict but they do need characters and character development!

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My absolute favorite thing about fix-it fics is the #CoulsonLives movement in which fandom collectively said fuck you to Marvel and Kevin Feige and decided Phil Coulson survived Loki's stabbing. That was beautiful.

In general, I enjoy them. They can be time travel fics (see: MDZS) or the MCD can be solved with science or magic (see: MCU). And while I might enjoy happy-happy-joy-joy feels all around, I usually enjoy the story a lot more if the implications and consequences of changing things on a fundamental level follow the MCs through their new, fixed reality.

@FandomChats Sometimes a work is messy and not on purpose. Persona 4 is very messy. I won't elaborate. I have hated it for 10 years until very recently when someone brought up Shuada (Yu/Adachi) feeling very 'human' and 'raw', similar to Nyata (Nyarlathotep/Tatsuya; entirely its own class of self hatred  ). I then read one fic and it flipped a switch in me. This fic was Fidelity Decay. I can't sing its praises enough, it made Yaso-Inaba fun again.

https://archiveofourown.org/series/2514877

Fidelity Decay - synthetica, wwaywwardVvagabond - Persona 4, Persona Series [Archive of Our Own]

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

@FandomChats As far as what makes a fix-it work for me... I like the changed scenarios and interactions. That the author(s) has self awareness that there is no one thing is going to actually fix everything ever. tbh there's very little media I didn't like that I would go out of my way to look up fic for, I hadn't thought about why one might seek out Fix-It.
I did end up replaying P4 and it was pretty cozy with the mindset as a small town horror mystery, potentially buddying up with the murderer.