StephenMay 18, 2024
Talked to a very smart person this afternoon who reminded me: climate fatalism ("it's too late") is a soft form of denialism.

Everything we do from here is worthwhile. It counts, it makes a difference. No matter what damage has been done, we can still make things better than if we had done nothing. We can still look after the world, look after our friends and family. Action has results.
Show threadSune Auken

@stephen

Very much agree. In fact, I've come to hold that there is nothing soft about it. Doom is the new Denial - both advocate inaction. A lot of it looks remarkably like an influence operation.

There are many excellent references to this, but Rebecca Solnit's article from The Guardian last year does a good job of covering it.

Oh, and if somebody replies to this post with doomism they'll be instantly blocked, as I'll take them to be a bad faith troll.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/26/we-cant-afford-to-be-climate-doomers

We can’t afford to be climate doomers

It often seems that people are searching harder for evidence we’re defeated than that we can win

The Guardian
May 20, 2024 at 7:12amWeb
Show threadSune AukenMay 20, 2024

@stephen

In other words: while I'm perfectly fine supporting people who feel despair, I'm done with people who advocate it.

Show threadArneBabMay 20, 2024

@SuneAuken Thank you for that!

Here’s two more resources showing how doomsday sects block actually improving things:
- far more good is happening than it seems — doomsday sects try to hide that: https://www.draketo.de/politik/kommentare#doomsday-sect-or-fixing

- paid ads on youtube spread doomism: https://www.draketo.de/politik/kommentare#climate-doomism-paid

You’ll also find them as collapse prophets; a german resource: “just collapse” is doomism clothed as justice and local action: https://www.draketo.de/politik/kommentare#doomism-collapse-uebel

@stephen

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Show threadArneBabMay 20, 2024

@SuneAuken Also if people tell you that all is lost, feel free to point them to my climate links:

https://www.draketo.de/wissen/klimalinks

I started collecting these years ago and when looking back I was surprised how many of these actually showed positive developments: the entries with a 💡

@stephen

Klima / climate: Links und Neuigkeiten / Links and News

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Show threadPhil Stevens May 20, 2024
@SuneAuken @stephen There is always something positive that can be done. Until the sun turns into a red giant, there's no reason not to do everything in our power to keep this tiny planet livable. (That's sort of long-term doomy, I know, so have mercy. And when red giant time approaches, we might be able to put up a big space parasol.)
Show threadSune AukenMay 20, 2024
@phil_stevens @stephen Clemency hereby granted.