I don’t have health insurance because I do not agree with gambling.

That is, itself, gambling. I’ve proven that by *posting the definition of the word “gambling.”

Again, for reference:

That is the entirety of my side of this conversation to you so far.

Except for when you tried to change the subject to unemployment insurance, crossing the road, or my usage of quotation marks.

You are telling me that I’m wrong to believe what I do and you seem very invested in doing so.

I have told you - repeatedly - that your “beliefs” are clearly (based on everything you keep saying) based on a complete lack of understanding as to what insurance is, what it’s for, and how it works as well as not really knowing the definition or the word “gambling”. If you heard something other than what I’ve said, that’s on you.

I don’t want to walk away from this conversation because I feel like it might be rude and that you might actually need someone to talk to.

Is everything going well in your life?

Oh, more ad hominem attacks and deflection. Seems like you’re all out of arguments.

You define gambling as anything that has an outcome.

Ya know, I’ve said this repeatedly, but you seem to be having memory problems, so I’ll repeat it:

I didn’t define anything. The dictionary did.

For reference:

What I’m doing is not risky, so it isn’t gambling by that definition.

In your very first comment on this post, you clearly lay out the risk (and hopeful outcome).

As an American man I only have a 40% chance of developing cancer in my lifetime, but with universal healthcare there’s 100% chance I will have to pay for it.

Seems like your memory problems are getting worse… too bad you don’t have health insurance, or you could go see a doctor to have that checked out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So you saying that being an American male is inherently risky?

Changing the subject again?

Nice straw man.

All American makes have a 40% chance of developing cancer in their lifetimes which you are saying is risky.

So you’re saying it’s risky to be an American male.

Do you know what a strawman is?

All American makes have a 40% chance of developing cancer in their lifetimes which you are saying is risky

You said that. You defined the risk. Are you having memory problems again and think that I made your comment?

So you’re saying it’s risky to be an American male.

That is the conclusion you have drawn based on the risk you, yourself, defined. Yet, you’re blaming me for things you did.

Do you know what a strawman is?

Sure: when you try to change the subject from health insurance to:

• “being an American male”
• unemployment insurance
• your wages
• my usage of quotation marks

These ar just a few examples of the straw man arguments you’ve tried here.

You brought up wages and employment insurance, though?

I asked about your usage of the quotation marks because it seems like you feel like my beliefs are less then.

This is totally bringing me back to my Reddit days, so thank you for that!

You brought up wages and employment insurance, though?

Wrong again. That was you.

Gee, those memory problems seem to be getting worse. Seems pretty foolish to have gambled on not getting health insurance when you appear to be in such need.

I asked about your usage of the quotation marks because it seems like you feel like my beliefs are less then.

A straw man and deflection. Your insecurities about your “beliefs” has nothing to do with health insurance.

This is totally bringing me back to my Reddit days, so thank you for that!

Yeah, people here usually don’t use so many obvious logical fallacies and circular arguments like you do. Most people know better.

You’re gambling that there’s someone willing to pay that amount for your labor. The stakes? Your financial security.

This was you bringing up wages before the cherry-picked comment.

And Here you are bringing it up first in the very comment I was replying to.

Now who’s cherry picking? Or is it just your severe memory problems again?

Why didn’t you lead with that comment?

You’re still operating under some silly idea that I have some sort of obligation to you. I don’t.

And you’re hardly someone from which I would take debate advice.

I’m having a friendly conversation with you.

It’s not a debate.

friendly

debate

Two more words you apparently don’t know the definitions of.

I don’t know your definitions of these words, because I’m having a friendly conversation with you, but you feel it’s a debate that’s causing you anguish.

Once again (because of your amnesia), I don’t define words. The dictionary does. Children understand this concept. Why do you struggle so much with it?

And of you don’t know what the words “friendly” and “debate” mean, then you shouldn’t be using them in a sentence.

As for this “anguish” you keep fantasizing about, you really should see a doctor about that.

Which doctors specialize in anguish?

A psychotherapist would be able to help you with your fantasizing that internet strangers that hurt your feelings are, themselves, feeling the “anguish” you feel.

Psychologists call it “projection”.

And if you hadn’t gambled your health and well-being on not getting health insurance, you wouldn’t have to pay so much for that therapy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You haven’t hurt my feelings but you have said that I attacked you personally but your unwilling to say where or how.

You haven’t hurt my feelings

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but you have said that I attacked you personally but your unwilling to say where or how.

I said every time I pointed out your ad hominem attacks. Your lack of/inability to understand is at the core of this debate, and still not my fault (nor my responsibility). Your failures are your own responsibility as are your foolish decisions when you gamble your health, well-being, and financial future by not getting health insurance.

It’s pretty irrational to blame others for your own words and actions.

How do my choices about my life affect you and why would you feel the need to tell me that you feel my beliefs and choices are wrong?

I already answered this, but since you seem to have a terrible case of amnesia, here is the answer again:

you’re spreading false information (your “beliefs”) as fact which could be harmful to others if they’re foolish enough to believe you. I don’t have to gain something in return just to do the right thing by posting the correct information in response. Life isn’t some zero-sum game where I have to be motivated by personal gain simply to do the right thing or because your feelings got hurt.

My feeling still aren’t hurt but we’ve already established I have thicker skin then you.

You’re free to your “beliefs” but the evidence here says otherwise.

If there’s evidence then you should have no problem producing it.

You already produced that evidence when you commented…every time you comment. And I point it out every time. Just like the ad hominem attacks. But you seem to have serious memory problems.

It’s irrational to blame others for things you, yourself, do and say.

How is that evidence my feelings are hurt?

It’s just evidence that you are more sensitive then me when it comes to people disagreeing on the internet.

You lashing out with personal attacks when met with facts that debunk your beliefs is not the fault of others. And when you falsely perceive others as feeling the “anguish” (the word you chose) that you, yourself, feel in these moments, that’s psychological projection.

Nobody else is to blame for your inability to process rejection and the upending of your “beliefs” in a healthy manner; it’s yours and yours alone. Too bad you gambled your health and well-being on not getting health insurance, or you’d be able to work through such difficult emotions with a therapist.

You haven’t been able to debunk a single belief of mine so far so I haven’t had anything to lash out about.

And the amnesia strikes again…

Convenient how that only happens when you have no rational, evidence-based response.

It’s mostly because what you say aligns with your beliefs but not mine so they aren’t as effective towards me as you’d like to believe.

Ah, the projection again…

You made this very clear, from the start, that this is - and always has been - about your “beliefs”. I have merely stated (and re-stated and re-stated) facts. Whether you believe those facts is irrelevant, and I don’t really care. I’m pretty sure that you’re so invested in your “beliefs” that no amount of facts would ever change your mind.

And I’m not here to change your mind— just to keep pointing out how, when, and why you’re wrong. See… I have no emotional investment here because these aren’t my “beliefs”…. They’re yours.

I’m not wrong, you are. But I’m not trying to forcibly change your mind because I respect your freedom to make objectively wrong choices for yourself.

I’m not wrong, you are

All evidence to the contrary.

But I’m not trying to forcibly change your mind because I respect your freedom to make objectively wrong choices for yourself.

There’s that amnesia again! I just said that I’m not trying to change your mind, that I don’t care what you believe, and that I don’t even think I could change your mind if I tried because of how emotionally invested you are in them— hence your lashing out when they’re challenged.

I also clearly said that you’re free to your “beliefs”— but the facts and evidence contradict them. You have chosen to lash out because you object to me pointing that out.

Not a gamble that’s paid off for you, I would say…

I don’t gamble.

Strange, as you’ve clearly laid out the odds, risks, etc. and you’re betting your life on your supposed “beliefs”.

Sure sounds like gambling to me…

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Not to mention the gambling you’ve been doing this whole time by engaging in this silly debate

I don’t gamble and this is a friendly conversation.