NYPD officer caught on video punching pro-Gaza protester during Brooklyn rally

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NYPD officer caught on video punching pro-Gaza protester during Brooklyn rally - Lemmy.World

There’s a reason cops are called pigs, cause they’re fucking disgusting and shouldn’t be associated with actual humans!
But they aren’t kosher or halal!
Abrahamic religions: surprisingly based?
I disagree. One is a loving intelligent creature that we should respect and coexist with. The other is a police officer.

You ever wonder why there are no videos of cops tackling and punching white supremacists during their protests?

(It’s cause the cops are on their side.)

Too many just say no they should just open carry ignoring that it would just make the cops attack even harder
At least you’ll get to shoot back
Maybe, except all the examples of cops going from zero to “shooty-mcshooty-pants” as soon as they see or suspect you have a gun.
If it’s one person, yes. If it’s an entire crowd of people open carrying rifles, not so much.
Or indeed an acorn.
There are plenty of videos of cops flashing white supremacist signs, though
These people should be much more tightly regulated
May I introduce you to the term “police work stoppage”
Dereliction of duty
Try to bet that past the union
Wait a second, you’re telling me police have one of those evil socialist unions?
“some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses”
Rage against the machine for everyone who doesn’t know.
It’d be awkward at the office the next day if they punched a coworker.

It’s about sides, but not about racism, I think.

Just the profession is mostly attractive to cowards who want to fill the inner void of self-respect by violence against others (or fear). Quite similar to how people become racist.

It’s definitely about racism. Racists are welcomed in the force. They’re just encouraged to keep it on the DL. You know, only wear the hood on the weekends.
Racism is just one of great many things often uniting cowards.
Friendly Fire is usually not enabled.
Fucking disgusting.
That’s not proper procedure, that’s assault. I would totally back that crowd if they swarmed in and beat the shit out of those cops after seeing that.

Honestly, until the working class realizes the cops work for the capitalists and are there to protect their property, not civilians, we will see more “don’t have anything to fear” crowd stepping in to assist against this kind of thing.

However, most are still hung up on wedge issues like abortion to unite against the powers of their own oppression. So long as cops are seen as protectors to some, we will have bootlickers tonguing some pork brown-eye.

I’ve heard they can shoot up some people for that there in the New World?

Just remember: all protestors are antisemities

Also: “cops aren’t bad, there’s just one or two bad apples.”

…ffs

Yeah, I never understood why they use that phrase. I swear not a single one has heard the entire phrase:

A few bad apples spoil the bunch.

I completely expected at least some incidents of crowds mass uprising against cops during the 2020 brutalities. I don’t mean burning down police stations. I mean literally attacking every cop on the street after Twitter was awash with cops running over protesters, cracking an old mans skull open, etc. I would have thought cops would be afraid of citizen mobs coming to their homes.

The degree of repression that we just accept, despite our anger, is shocking to me. And I say this as an anti-violence person. I wouldn’t have taken part in such an uprising. But I thought there are enough people who would be pushed over the edge that I was sorta dismayed that a mini-revolution didn’t happen.

cracking an old mans skull open

The fact that the national guard stepped in immediately after the cop walked away is so telling. The actual military, deployed with rifles to calm down the riots, gives more of a shit about people than the police.

YES! YES! YES! THIS IS LITERALLY WHY I’M ANGRY. I DON’T CARE THAT THERE’S FASCISTS!!! WHEN ARE WE FIGHTING BACK? I WANT TO FIGHT BACK!
It’s crazy how this makes headlines around the world, yet we’ve had cops behave ten times worse with protesters here in Germany and it never leaves fringe news outlets. Not even one big German news outlet explicitly talks about such cases happening here. It feels like I’m living in a dystopian future.
It’s because of our past and now Israel can do no wrong and anyone who even hints at Israel doing a genocide is an antisemitic Nazi sympathizer. The media and politics bias is extreme

Yes, it’s funny, I grew up listening to my clueless mother about how Germany has repented and Nazi stuff isn’t tolerated because they understand the weight and all that nonsense.

I’m part Jewish. Reading

Germans love to pat themselves on the back while telling themselves that. But it’s just performative. It has no substance, no value. Their nazi grandpas were still working for the government after the war. Some of them were even ministers. Some of them were big generals in the German army during and after the war. At the same time Germany is cracking down on the “bad jews” that do not fit their rabid colonialist ideology. Oh, where have I seen that before? Separating the bad jews from the good ones.
I’m part jewish myself. My great grandmother was killed by the nazis during the Holocaust. Yet Germans are trying to gaslight people like me for speaking about the fact that Palestinians are humans and should be treated as such.

Meanwhile, historians are amazed at the comparatively low civilian casualty in Gaza despite very problematic circumstances: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVcP_0xwNWs&t=5983

Mind you, the Palestinians often behave very humanely: youtu.be/NVcP_0xwNWs?t=7403

Oh, and because there are always questions about the author’s past: youtu.be/NVcP_0xwNWs?t=8087

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So the guy you just linked as a historian is an ex AfD politician.

Has he published any books on Israel Palestine or why would whatever he says be worth a dime?

During all of this ask yourself one thing: What could Hamas do to stop the violence?

Dude, I fucking don’t care for the tears of Hamas-Lovers. The international Law is harsh but straight forward: Israel has the right to self defend and if Hamas fights back by shooting its own people and hiding behind kids - their problem. The current objectives of Israel align perfectly with international Law:

  • return of the hostages
  • make Hamas a non-thread. Either by making Hamas surrender and return all weapons or by Hamas dying in g(l)ory and taking some of their civilians with them. See, I laughed my ass off when South Africa sued Germany for supporting Israel because the only outcome by Law would be “Germany is acting by the Law.” the same will happen for the current case against Netanjahu - he might be a cretin but he is not a criminal. For Hamas though… I am pretty sure Den Haag will happy sue an arrest warrent for them. You hate this? Well, that is international Law.
  • If the international law is so clear cut then Israel would’ve left the territories it occupies illegally under international law. They’ve been occupying them and settling for decades. That is illegal and has been declared as such. But look, at least the people out of your german bubble can see how delusional the german society really is. You’re boiling in your own delusions. A fever dream, a parallel reality that even Israel allies do not share with you.

    During all of this ask yourself one thing: What could Hamas do to stop the violence?

    Dude, I fucking don’t care for the tears of Hamas-Lovers. The international Law is harsh but straight forward: Israel has the right to self defend and if Hamas fights back by shooting its own people and hiding behind kids - their problem. The current objectives of Israel align perfectly with international Law:

  • return of the hostages
  • make Hamas a non-thread. Either by making Hamas surrender and return all weapons or by Hamas dying in g(l)ory and taking some of their civilians with them. See, I laughed my ass off when South Africa sued Germany for supporting Israel because the only outcome by Law would be “Germany is acting by the Law.” the same will happen for the current case against Netanjahu - he might be a cretin but he is not a criminal. For Hamas though… I am pretty sure Den Haag will happy sue an arrest warrent for them. You hate this? Well, that is international Law.
  • You literally copy pasted the comment that was removed by the mods by that other user. Go look at the reply I left there if you want an answer. I don’t know if you’re a bot or not, but this is the exact comment that was left here already, with the exact same grammatical mistakes.
    funny thing, he is one of the worst critics of the AfD.

    Meanwhile, historians are amazed at the comparatively low civilian casualty in Gaza despite very problematic circumstances: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVcP_0xwNWs&t=5983

    Mind you, the Palestinians often behave very humanely: youtu.be/NVcP_0xwNWs?t=7403

    Oh, and because there are always questions about the author’s past: youtu.be/NVcP_0xwNWs?t=8087

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    Did you just repost the comment I already replied to and the mods removed? Are you a bot?
    Disregard Israeli bullshit
    If it makes you feel any vindication, the fact that this was reported by news outlets here means nothing. This cop will never see punishment beyond a slap on the wrist or some paid administrative leave at best. Police violence has already been institutionalized in America too.
    Sadly it doesn’t. I’m here just trying to warn people that things will get a lot worse.
    Do you have any news articles (even local ones in German) to share regarding that? Would be interested in reading.

    Just a ton of videos of police violence taken at protests and posted in activist groups on Instagram. I’ll drop you some links to them here.

    Most of these videos are from a few days ago. Oldest one is from three weeks ago. Honestly they’re all scattered all throughout my gallery, so here are just the few last ones I’ve gotten. This has been ongoing since last year.

    Here you can see a police officer repeatedly hitting a protester that’s already on the ground. Remember that cops have gloves with their knuckles covered in hard plastic.
    www.instagram.com/reel/C6OauD0MK7j/

    There’s also this one from the same event with cops pummeling protesters that are on the ground with fists and jumping on them with their knees. www.instagram.com/reel/C6PSMzaxwUp

    Here is one with a cop hitting a woman directly in the face, again, with hard gloves. Also of cops almost breaking a man’s arm while on the ground. www.instagram.com/reel/C7Ji4JGM6Ta/

    Here are some of cops spraying people with pepper spray at extremely close distance. www.instagram.com/reel/C7H4E3OMGUW/ www.instagram.com/reel/C7HjvAzMHEM/

    There was also one with a cop on top of a woman pummeling her with his fists. I’ll keep looking for it and update the comment when I find it. Remember that these happened over the last few days. This has been ongoing for many months now and there are many horrible examples of this happening. There are also the many pictures and videos of police officers holding protesters from the back while completely covering their eyes and mouths from behind. This is inhumane. Also most of these situations are easily avoidable, but cops are more trigger happy at some protests than at others for some reason. It seems like they’ve been let off the leash to escalate these situations to the extreme.

    Many reports of activists with broken noses, arms, or legs coming out of here. It also doesn’t help that in Germany the chances of successfully suing a cop are close to zero.

    Attacking sit-in protesters www.instagram.com/reel/C5HH7H3sNWN/

    Attacking sit-in protesters www.instagram.com/reel/C6OXmErNRRu/

    Beating on a man that’s on the ground www.instagram.com/reel/C6Op_5LMudO/

    This looks like a straight up rape scene streamable.com/of0f86

    Attacking a guy for peacefully carrying a flag streamable.com/7rjsmt

    Attacking a lone man at night streamable.com/diprmv

    There’s also a video of them attacking a visibly pregnant foreign woman.

    There have also been reports by irish protesters being followed around by police, so they had to seek shelter in a local coffee store until the cops got bored and left. Apparently a tactic is to follow them around until they break up in smaller groups and then violently arrest them.

    So you can see, police violence that makes international headlines when it comes out of the US, goes unnoticed in Germany. It feels like I’m living in a fever dream, where the worst in the US is considered the normal here.
    Uff, that’s hard. But people should definitely still try to sue if they feel up to it. This is the only way stuff like this gets out to the public!
    That’s not how Germany functions. First and foremost, it’s next to impossible to sue the police. Secondly, the media doesn’t report on any of this and won’t. It doesn’t fit in their agenda to acknowledge that such things are happening.
    That’s not true. You can definitely sue the police. You can literally sue anyone. But the chance of winning is something else. And we have lots of private Newspaper which don’t follow an “agenda” and are more than happy to report about this. For example Katapult Magazin & Volksverpetzer. There is no overall “agenda”. Don’t start to schwurble.

    What I clearly meant by that is that it is impossible to successfully sue a cop. No one cares that you can sue if the chances of winning are literally zero. And that’s what your chances do look like in Germany.

    Besides that Volksverpetzer is trying way too hard to go the enlightened centrist route which is especially now a problem when we’re looking at a possible genocide. Katapult Magazin is okay in that aspect. There are a few other ones there too. But again, these are fringe outlets.

    Police violence that is at least as bad as the one seen in this article, or even worse, is not picked up by big media outlets in Germany as it is in other countries like the US or UK. And that is what I was criticising. If you do find an article from a big German media outlet going into detail on cops using excessive violence and pummelling protesters with fists, then link it here. Otherwise I don’t think there’s anything left to discuss.

    Ahhh now it’s THIS specific kind of police violence, interesting. In your other Post it was Police using excessive violence in general which was not talked about. Moving goal posts, I see. It took 30 seconds of googling to find this. And… wow, lots of these are public media. Who could have known. You have the same flaw as most “political people” today. You have strong opinion about politics, but doing something? “Naaaah. YoU cAnT dO AnYtHinG!11!!! THEY wont let us!!!1111 No, I haven’t tried yet. I just know…” You can’t expect that People get punished for doing wrong if NO ONE does something. People have to try! You might fail because the system is rigged but not trying is no solution either, then you lose every time. You want the police to stop beating you up? SUE THEM. Start a social media campaign, do something else instead of only complaining. And don’t bother answering me I will have blocked you at this point, I have enough idle people around me, I don’t need more.’

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    I’m clearly talking under a post about “PRO GAZA PROTESTS”

    I dunno. Are your polzei intentionally firing rubber baton rounds at protesters’ heads, breaking limbs, and pepper-spraying at point-blank? Haven’t seen it reported as happening yet for the Gaza protests but there’s a load of people from the BLM protests (where people wanted police to stop murdering fellow citizens) that suffered blindness and/or traumatic brain injuries (among other things) as a result.

    I really hope your police aren’t as bad as those in the US. Here they are generally legally untouchable and can even straight-up rob you by charging your property with a crime (they can it “civil asset forfeiture” and despite it being blatantly against the word and spirit of our Constitution, the courts keep declaring it somehow legal).