UN says 800,000 people have fled Rafah as Israel kills dozens in Gaza

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UN says 800,000 people have fled Rafah as Israel kills dozens in Gaza - Lemmy.World

I keep asking pro-Israel people here on Lemmy what the maximum number of children that they feel it is necessary to sacrifice in this war.

I get two answers, usually both together:

  • Hamas is the one killing the children.
  • If this was your country, you would kill lots of children too.
  • And they expect me to accept those answers as if they were true.

    Cool there’s already one saying they’re okay with all of them being killed

    You would give up you basic human rights for them?

    Keep in mind, if Israel let hamas stay in power, it will prove to the scattered Isis cells that kidnappings can and will bring democracies to their knees.

    What will happen all across Europe in that scenario?

    Hamas must be plucked from the root, condemned and thrown away!

    And yes, collateral damage is terrible, but it does not give a free pass for genocide.

    Isis and Hamas aren’t the same apnews.com/…/israel-hamas-gaza-war-islamic-state-…

    Killing everyone just makes more terrorists. Answer is making it better for populations not eliminating everything that moves.

    Why comparing Hamas to the Islamic State misses the mark

    It has become an Israeli mantra throughout the latest war in Gaza: Hamas is ISIS. Since the bloody Hamas attack on Oct. 7 that triggered the war, Israeli leaders and commanders have likened the Palestinian militant group to the Islamic State group. They point to Hamas’ brutal slaughter of hundreds of civilians and compare their Gaza war to the U.S.-led campaign to defeat IS in Iraq and Syria. But in many ways, these comparisons miss the mark by ignoring the home-grown origins and base of support for Hamas in Palestinian society. These miscalculations may already have led to unrealistic expectations for victory. They also complicate the fledgling U.S. efforts to halt the fighting.

    AP News

    m.jpost.com/middle-east/article-767627

    Yes they are. Once the finish with Israel, then Europe and the Americas.

    'Hamas is ISIS': Here's how we know

    Hamas and ISIS share ideological foundations and revere the same philosophical figures that developed them.

    The Jerusalem Post

    So you didn’t read the article I linked. Not surprised

    Once they finish with Israel, they will attack Europe and the Americas.

    Why would they?

    Either way killing/displacing a population isn’t how you stop terrorism

    Israel isn’t killing a population, it is eradicating a terror organization.

    They would became hamas wants to take down the west and the US in particular.

    Palestinian protests burned a US flag on US soil. What has this world come to?

    eradicating a terror organization.

    By eradicating and displacing a population.

    Palestinian protests burned a US flag on US soil. What has this world come to?

    So? Flag burning has been a protest method for decades (and a way to properly dispose of flags)

    By eradicating and displacing a population.

    By eny means necessary.

    So? Flag burning has been a protest method for decades

    I would maybe accept this argument if it wasn’t for the fact that the US flag is burned while Palestinian flag is raised in its place and “death to America chants” in the background.

    I don’t know. Seems like pissing in your own drinking water.

    Think I’d rather have that then helping eradicate populations but you do you with your fantasies of ethnic cleansing being justified
    You have a very active fantasy life if you think Hamas would stand a chance against the combined forces of NATO.

    Really?

    What will NATO do when 10 differant sleeper cells each kidnap some children and woman?

    Fight or surrender?

    If you believe they will fight, then they will quickly start racking up civilian casualties. How will the “progressive” youths react?

    You underestimating Hamas’s power or intent is a really bad and dangerous thing to.

    And what would Hamas accomplish by doing that?
    That is irrelevant.
    How is it irrelevant to ask why they would do it?
    Because I asked a hypothetical and you’re trying to reason.
    So in your hypothetical, Hamas does something for absolutely no reason?
    Because all they know how to respond is but khamas

    Rediculous. They are the same in every respect except where they want the seat of the new Islamic caliphate to be, after they’ve killed all the Jews.

    Hamas can’t get its members to stop paying dues to ISIS, and vice versa, the leaders had to declare war against each other to let them know how super serious they are about poaching each others suicidal nutjobs.