StrikerWe may clown on him a lot but it's genuinely quite dystopian how much power Elon Musk has.
Hobbes_DentDid Woody ask if they could talk about Rampart?
I dunno. I would have no interest in watching such a thing.
Lifecoach5000Deep cut lol
Me when I first read who the narrator was.
YarHarSuperstarWow, without feathers getting even side effects!
Gotta love Woody Harrelson šā¤ļø
RBGI will never forget his iconic role in Rampartā¦ AmA.
Maven (famous)Whatās your favorite color?
Letās get back to questions about Rampart. Also donāt ask about that incident with the high school girl.
RFK is going to siphon away possible Trump voters, not possible Biden voters. I have no problem with this.
We hope...
Yeah, talking to some folks on a recent visit to the states. It sounds like there are at least some young voters who would normally vote D but wonāt because of Bidenās age that are leaning towards RFK. I donāt think his influence can be easily dismissed
He wonāt have the Ā® next to his name. I hope youāre right, but the Never Trumpers talk a big game every timeā¦ then bend the knee.
I dunno. His own staffer came out and said their entire purpose was to keep Biden from winning re-election. Third party candidates donāt typically siphon votes away from the party that religiously tows the line. The republicans have gotten their voters in lockstep formation, to a scary degree. The democrats have a harder time because their needed voters are a wide swath of different people, from those scared of republicans (really the dems bread and butter), to people who want social programs, to liberals, to liberal-leaning conservatives (though this group has been disappearing for a while), to leftists that begrudgingly vote for the lesser of two evilsā¦itās a melting pot. Thatās also why the dems have a harder time winning, typically. The dems and the left will debate procedural shit for how to accomplish similar goals. The right is all emotional appeals/reactionaries. Herding cats vs shooting fish in a barrel. I wouldnāt be so sure about RFK jr only appealing to the right.
UnderpantsWeevilThird party candidates donāt typically siphon votes away from the party that religiously tows the line.
Trump doesnāt really tow the line, through. Heās a manifestation of a revolt from inside the GOPās white nationalist electoral core, against the financial internationalist who have controlled the party since Reagan.
I donāt think itās clear who RFK is really feeding from. Itās possible his voters simply wouldnāt turn out if he wasnāt on the ballot. But itās doubtful that he can steal Biden voters by parroting Trump positions.
The dems and the left will debate procedural shit for how to accomplish similar goals. The right is all emotional appeals/reactionaries.
Liberal admins donāt debate procedural shit, they kill legislation hostile to their donors with technicalities. These same technicalities never affect our illegal wars or unconstitutional policing or criminally unconscionable polluting or corrupt corporate bailouts.
The big difference between libs and cons is that cons demand their red meat and are willing to lose an election or two to guarantee it, while liberals are constantly running scared of their replacements in the next election.
The emotion you see isnāt unique to conservatives. Itās simply rewarded rather than shamed.
Trump doesnāt really tow the line though
No, but their voters would sacrifice themselves to tow the line. That was my point.
itās doubtful that he can steal Biden votes by parroting trump positions.
I dunno. There are plenty of relatively shallow thinking democrats. Itās called a āprotest voteā for a reason.
Liberal admins donāt debate procedural shit
I didnāt mean āprocedural shitā like inside baseball house floor procedural. I meant the voters are multifaceted and disagree on how to achieve what liberals and leftists can generally agree upon: social programs and the like. See what Iām saying? Iām really tired and Iām not explaining this well, but Iām saying even if leftists and liberals and democrats can all be somewhat on the same page about a general outcome theyād like to see, there are segments of that voting populace that would withhold their vote if the the issue is discussed in a way they canāt get behind or the route to the agreed-upon solution isnāt exactly to their liking.
There was a tweet someone posted just the other day on the leftist meme community, basically saying āfascists are leftistsā #2 greatest enemy, behind the other leftist who agrees with them roughly 96%.ā Youāll also get a lot more single issue voters, or leftists that will be turned away because they canāt sacrifice their morals on one issue the candidate doesnāt agree with them on, while undeniably accomplishing many things the leftist does support. We have principles, basically. And sacrificing those principles is a lot harder for us than a right wing voter that see Red and mashes that button as fast as they can.
The democratsā likely voters are finicky and incredibly diverse. On the right, the voters tow the line pretty much universally. No matter what happens, the republicans canāt seem to lose votes past a certain point. The democrats have to get a lot of stuff right for a pretty diverse group of voters, all in a row, to keep their voters turning out.
cons demand their red meat and are willing to lose an election or two to guarantee it.
If Iām understanding this correctly, I think I strongly disagree. But can you clarify this? Because Iām not sure I do actually understand what you mean.
gardylouI agree with your sentiment generally but will say that Trump supporters are the ones who also like Kennedyā¦I dont see much crossover from his brand of crazy from Dems or those left of Dems.
Yeah, I think thatās generally the idea. But i think the same wouldāve been true of Gary whatshisface in 2016, the libertarian guy. Iām not really sure thatās how it shook out in the end, though.
I also think the more-likely-to-be-democrat voters are probably just generally more likely to vote third party, knowing itās a throwaway, in order to send a message. The right really doesnāt ever seem to break apart, that ~48-50% of people seemingly canāt be turned away no matter what happens. Look at all those street interviews done recently. Those āanyone but trumpā republicans, when pressed on who theyād vote for if Nikki Haley couldnāt win the primary, they all waffled for a minute before saying theyād vote for trump. After calling him a fascist, a racist, etc. The conditioning on the right is so strong. It needs to be studied. Iām sure it will be if humanity survives the next 20 years.
Youāre not thinking correctly. The right is not a giant monolith. Many people who lean right or are centrists voted for Biden last election because they too despise Trump. Those are the kind of people who will vote for RFK. Now, they still get to vote against Trump, but donāt have to vote for Biden. And yes, of course voting 3rd party is essentially the same as voting for whoever wins up winning, but people are idiots and donāt understand that logic.
If they made a documentary about the life of little Bobbyās brain worm, I might watch that. Provided, of course, that itās also narrated by Woody Harrelson.
blazeraThis is just how capitalism works. Societyās resources are divied up based on capital. But capital is one of those resources. So it feedback loops into concentrating more and more resources into fewer and fewer hands. And elon is the poster child for just how incompetent you can be and it not matter.
Unlimited Passive Income, baby! The white whale of every tech bro.
SanctusWell yeah its not about competence. Its about how much capital you already have. Thatās the only prerequisite to power.
guy with enormous megaphone: ātheyāre trying to silence, everybody click on my thing Iām so silenced! I have secret truths!ā
If they donāt want me to see it, it must be true!
The worms speak the secret truth to him
Hopefully he will get some of the racist and nutbags to consider Kennedy if they are sick of Trump for some random bullshit reason (if they were going to pick a good reason to be sick of Trump, they never would have liked him to begin with.
Great. Now I canāt enjoy anything new from Woody Harrelson.
You could just focus on Rampart instead.
youtu.be/yRpWaJRyVQo?si=slyJXZqeUSYjT9Xm
Worth watching.
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ā¦okā¦and how does this demonstrate his power, again? Iām not following.
It demonstrates his reach.
His āreachā is 90% bots and the rest are white supremacists
the rest are white supremacists
Soooā¦ the vast majority of the US political establishment?
glad that feeling i had that woody harrelson is a massive cunt was correct
Now, now, thereās no need for that kinda talk.
We should probably stick to talking about Rampart
im baffled that someone was seemingly notified for what is literally two paragraphs and a sentence.
What has the internet come to these days?
The part about his battle with brain worms was truly inspiring.
Uriel238 [all pronouns]What is scary is how consistently cruel, apathetic and ignorant our plutocrats are, which is exactly why we gave up on monarchy in the first place.
It shows us how capitalism doesnāt work and just deteriorates to rule by force (but with more manufactured consent).
which is exactly why we gave up on monarchy
We didnāt give up on monarchy. We guillotined the fuck out of it.
SturgiesYrFaseHey, only some folk guillotined it away, lots of the rest of us either still have the monarchy, or just kinda wandered off, fought with the monarchy for a little bit and now are on speaking terns but do their own thing.