Leah Rowe ist kein RoweboterMay 12, 2024

https://canoeboot.org/news/gnu.html

The Canoeboot project provides free (libre) boot firmware based on coreboot, replacing proprietary BIOS/UEFI firmware on specific Intel/AMD x86 and ARM based motherboards, including laptop and desktop computers. It initialises the hardware (e.g. memory controller, CPU, peripherals) and starts a bootloader for your operating system. GNU+Linux and BSD are well-supported. Help is available via #canoeboot on Libera IRC.

Should Canoeboot become GNU Canoeboot?

Discuss!

Canoeboot – Should Canoeboot become GNU Canoeboot?

Canoeboot – Should Canoeboot become GNU Canoeboot?

Canoeboot – Should Canoeboot become GNU Canoeboot?
Show threadcocolinofanMay 18, 2024
@libreleah If Canoeboot provides firmware without binary blobs, then what is Libreboot doing?
Show threadLeah Rowe ist kein Roweboter
@cocolinofan providing support for more hardware, and providing regularly tested binary releases of coreboot (coreboot only does source releases). see: https://libreboot.org/docs/maintain/
Libreboot – LibreBoot MaKe (lbmk) build system design and maintenance manual

Libreboot – LibreBoot MaKe (lbmk) build system design and maintenance manual

Libreboot – LibreBoot MaKe (lbmk) build system design and maintenance manual
May 18, 2024 at 10:40pmWeb
Show threadcocolinofanMay 19, 2024
@libreleah I see. So in order from proprietary to free would be:
Coreboot > Libreboot > Canoeboot
Brilliant.
As to the name "GNU Canoeboot" is ok for the symbolism but just "Canoeboot" sounds better.
Show threadLeah Rowe ist kein RoweboterMay 19, 2024

@cocolinofan Canoeboot->Libreboot is also possible (people can send patches to Canoeboot and I'll cherry-pick in Libreboot).

Yes, what you've said is otherwise the default workflow: coreboot->libreboot->canoeboot

By the way, Canoeboot has an equivalent version of that page:

https://canoeboot.org/docs/maintain/

Canoeboot and Libreboot are essentially coreboot distros. It's the same concept as a Linux distro, but for your boot firmware.

Canoeboot – cbmk maintenance manual

Canoeboot – cbmk maintenance manual

Canoeboot – cbmk maintenance manual
Show threadAlexandre Oliva (moved to @[email protected])May 19, 2024
canoe was intended to sound like gnu to generate confusion
whether GNU or not, it better be called libreboot-libre, since libreboot became undeserving of the name
Show threadLeah Rowe ist kein RoweboterMay 20, 2024

@[email protected] @cocolinofan FYI to anyone reading: Alexandre Oliva, the person who just responded on this thread, is a member of the GNU Advisory Committee and the current lead developer of GNU Linux-libre.

He has expressed opposition to me over Canoeboot's current initiative. I've also had members of the GNU Advisory Committee come to me in support, regarding Canoeboot and its quest to join GNU.

Alexandre was partly instrumental in Canoeboot's old name, nonGeNUine Boot; he inspired me to use that name!