Is it a sweatshirt or a jacket?

https://lemmy.world/post/15485571

Is it a sweatshirt or a jacket? - Lemmy.World

I have always called a light top with a full zipper to be a jacket, however the people I’m surrounded by insist on calling it a sweatshirt. I’m prepared to be wrong, just wondering if I’m the only one.

Hooded sweatshirt.
I insisted on calling them this throughout high school because I thought the word hoodie was dumb. Tbh I was probably annoying about it. Eventually I caved, but I still think hoodie is kind of a dumb word. So is jumper for what it’s worth.
I know they’re essentially the same thing but when you say it that way I think of a hooded pullover, but hoodies are zippered for me.

I’d call it a “hoodie”.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodie

A hoodie (in some cases spelled hoody[1] and alternatively known as a hooded garment)[2] is a type of sweatshirt[1] with a hood that partially or fully covers the wearer’s head or face.

Wikipedia says that the zipper can be a defining characteristic:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacket

List of jackets

  • Hoodie, a zippered hooded sweatshirt (non zippered can be considered a sweatshirt only)
Hoodie - Wikipedia

List of jackets

  • Hoodie, a zippered hooded sweatshirt (non zippered can be considered a sweatshirt only)

That clears things up… this jacket is a zippered hooded sweatshirt.

Wait, that resolves nothing!

It’s a hoodie.
Zip up hoodie
The only true answer
More importantly, where is OP based that this has become a debate with two wrong answers?!
That my friend, is called a hoodie.

Ugh, I spent entirely too much time arguing this when I was still in school, ironically the most time we spent arguing with men that were more than twice my age and felt way too strongly about this.

This is the right answer and I will not be taking any questions: 🙃

  • If it comes as a set with matching bottoms(or a gold chain) = Tracksuit/Sweatsuit

  • Light single layer + hood = hoodie

  • Light (single layer) + zipper/buttons + no hood = Jacket

  • Light (single layer) + knitted = sweater or sweater jacket if it opens

  • The other lighter layers with no hardware are just pullover

  • Heavier outterwear = Coat

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

You wrote all of that and left out the one in the picture

It’s a zip up hoodie

You’re missing things like wind breaker and rain jacket - light, zipper, hood.

Sweatshirts are double-layered pullovers, typically non-woven. Sweaters are single-layer pullovers, typically knit. Jackets have buttons or zippers. Hoodies have hoods and are made of fabric (e.g. raincoats are not hoodies).

You can have hoodies that are also sweatshirts, or hoodies that are also jackets.

This garment pictured in your post is a jacket. It is also a hoodie. It is neither a sweatshirt nor a sweater.

This is just my interpretation of the situation. I don’t know of any formal classification system for outerwear.

A swacket.
It does sound better than a jackshirt.

I would not call it at all.

(because I know already that it won’t come :-))

That particular thing is a hoodie. Without the hood it’s a jacket. Without a zip (as in, it goes over your head to put it on) it’s a jumper. I think sweatshirt is an American word

Sounds like it!

www.oed.com/dictionary/sweatshirt_n?tl=true

The earliest known use of the noun sweatshirt is in the 1920s.

OED’s earliest evidence for sweatshirt is from 1929, in Sears, Roebuck Catalogue.

EDIT: I never really thought about the word until now, realized that it’s a portmanteau of “sweater” and “shirt”.

sweatshirt, n. meanings, etymology and more | Oxford English Dictionary

sweatshirt, n. meanings, etymology, pronunciation and more in the Oxford English Dictionary

I just call a hoodie without a zipper a pullover hoodie.
Ah yeah, I mean that without a hood and zip it’s a jumper. With a hood and no zip it’s a hoodie
Jacket. But also hoodie.

I really like these because they’re convenient. I call them a hoodie.

Then I realised I never use the hood and it’s kinda uncomfortable when you put a jacket on in winter

So I bought one without a hood

That was the day I realised I’d bought what was essentially my first cardigan :(

If it has a zipper I’d consider it a sweater not a cardigan. Cardis have buttons.
You keep telling yourself that when you’re 50 my friend 😂
the ones without hoods often have uncomfortable collars, like zipper scratching my neck etc. so even though i dont use the hood, i prefer having it so it sits well.
Mr. Rogers would be proud. :)
So OP is a hooded cardigan.
The tag on the one I wear says sweatshirt on it.
Does anybody else feel guilty being suspicious of anybody in a black hoodie with the hood up? - lemm.ee

Specifically because I live in a hot climate, I’m always fighting the feeling of being suspicious of anybody I pass in the streets with a hoodie pulled up. I feel guilty because of racial profiling associated with hoodies, but gotta protect myself and my family, especially because in many cases the perpetrators of assault and murder seen in media are somebody with a hood and/or mask on.

That’s a zippered hoodie
According to the TSA, it’s a jacket. Ask me how I know.
How do you know ? Does it involve cavity search ?
Make sure to reach the back of his teeth

Not in my case, but if did involve a very minor disagreement with a TSA officer.

I very minor disagreement: I’m not stupid. But I was a white male US citizen, otherwise I wouldn’t have risked it.

I was a white male US citizen

What are you these days?

The CIA does not allow them to disclose this information.
Hoodie.
Weirdly for me, this wouldn’t be a hoodie. Pullover hoodies are the only type possible in my mind. Something like this would be a jacket to me.
Check this out dawg - a pullover hoodie is this without a zipper. So this is a – zippered hoodie.

To be clear, I don’t actually refer to it as a “pullover hoodie”. I just said that for clarification.

For me,

A hooded sweatshirt without a zipper = hoodie. In my experience, these are often (but not always) more looser fitting.

A hooded article of clothing with a zipper = jacket. In my experience, these are often more form fitting.

First - tone is hard to convey. I think what I said could sound rl douchey if read wrong. I wasn’t slamming you.

I understand your point and I think it really if just about where you grew up and what other people call things. I have def called my zip up a jacket.

In this specific case - this is a zipper / zip up hoodie. Or just zip up. But like you aren’t breaking any laws by calling it a jacket and people still know what you mean when you call it a jacket - so it doesn’t matter at all and you do you

Wear that fuckin jacket dawg.

What weirdos down voted you over this
Hoodie terminology is serious business evidently!! Lol
It’s down to the material. That looks like full cotton with a hood. So, sweatshirt. Hooded sweatshirt = Hoodie. Denim? Would’ve been a jacket. Some sort of wind blocking material like polyester or nylon would be a jacket. I might give jacket status to a multilayer cotton jacket with inner liners too.

nylon

Then it’s a windbreaker

I’d classify a windbreaker as a jacket. All squares are rectangles and what not.

This kinda rocks my world. I never thought of it being based on the material, no wonder I've always found the whole hoodie / sweatshirt / sweater / jacket think confusing.

Hmmm...still not sure it makes sense to me...

That’s alright. It doesn’t matter in the slightest. If you want to call them whatever it doesn’t matter.
When I was growing up, we called these “sweatshirt jackets.” So, yes.

It’s both, depending on what word my brain decides to use at the time.

But I think usually that would be a “sweater”, a “sweatshirt” doesn’t have a zipper or hood, and a “jacket” is made of, um, jacket material.

Depends on the material and construction by my reckoning. If it’s made of just sweatshirt fleece (smooth on the outside face), it would most-precisely be called a “full-zip hooded sweatshirt.” I have also heard of these referred to as a “sweatjac,” though. (Which, IMO, sounds more like an event at the Self-Love Olympics.) Without the zipper, it’d be a “pullover hooded sweatshirt.” If it were constructed with a lining, or from a heavier-duty material (e.g. denim), then it’d be a “hooded jacket.” Garments made from material with two fuzzy faces (or even one fuzzy face on the outside) are “fleeces,” so this’d be a “full-zip hooded fleece.”

No, I don’t claim that it makes sense, it’s just the way I learned it.

It’s a zip up hoody, which makes it a sweater as far as I’m aware.

This whole thing is confusing to me.

For me, gen X, growing up it was this:
Sweatshirt: Non-hooded OR hooded and shirt shaped with NO zipper but made of material that is "fleece"-like on one side and smooth-ish on the other.

Jacket: zippered thing, long sleeves, usually made of plastic or nylon but the purpose was to wear OVER your clothes as a windbreaker and/or to keep you warm.

Hoodies did not exist. Things like a sweatshirt, jacket, coat or shirt might have a hood.

Now, I do not know what the fuck to call shit.

That is a fucking jirt. Shirtet. Sweatjack. Hoodet. Sweatie. Jackie.