dvdnet62Microsoft stoops to new low with ads in Windows 11, as PC Manager tool suggests your system needs ‘repairing’ if you don’t use Bing
GolfNovemberUniformIdk what I can say about this except “lol”
DiplomjodlerMy reaction too. Next thing they’ll have a hand reach out from the monitor and slap you in the face every time you log on. And people will still put up with it.
bolexforsoupA lot of people don’t have a choice
Actually, those that don’t have a choice aren’t affected by the enshittification quite as much. This mainly affects the consumers using Windows Home. And those definitely could try something else.
Technically speaking noone is restricting you from changing your job/school
Yeah technically in the most literal sense of the word. In practice we both know that’s not the case.
Who is this Noone guy, and why is he restricting everyone’s job and school choices?
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henfredemarsReclaim your PC. Make it yours once more. Join the penguins.
I dualboot to accommodate a handful of apps. Linux loads up fast and awaits my command once logged in. Meanwhile my pretty much fresh windows build sets my cooling fans on full before I’ve even touch the mouse.
I admit it was a bit of a learning curve getting things set up as I like, but man Linux is such a better experience.
Do you have your fans controlled by the bios or a fan controller?
Not op but i personally use a fan controler as on my laptop asus weird overboost system is not very well handled by bios.
I was thinking about desktops, where the fan would be physically plugged into a fan controller instead of into the motherboard. Not sure what that would look like with a laptop.
I was mainly asking because some of those fan controllers default to full on when the usb connection is absent, and Windows doesn’t enable all usb connections until after the user logs into the system.
Hmm since it’s linux you could have a service that handles that at boot i think. (I’m a noob take this with a grain of salt)
The bios.
You might like a VM for Windows instead, so there’s no risk of a windows update taking a hammer to your bootloader
kingthrillgoreThis is one of the reasons I like Qubes a lot.
I hadn’t heard of this before, and the concept is really intriguing. Thanks for this. I’ll check it out.
I didn’t spend tons of time experimenting, but found the VM wasn’t performing as smoothly as a second install.
Should I be worried about the boot loader thing? My OS picking experience is pretty wack. I have to slam esc while booting then f9 then pick my Linux boot up. It defaults to windows which I kind of like because it puts my actual OS on stealth mode lol.
If you’re booting without GRUB then you don’t need to be concerned about your bootloader breaking. Windows just sometimes overwrites GRUB, which is a pain
There’s something refreshing and simple about the computer doing what you tell it to do and nothing extra.
When you don’t want or need your hand held, there is a simple beauty.
0110010001100010I finally did this last week, nuked out my Win 11 laptop install and switched to Ubuntu. I have yet to find anything I would need to go back to Windows for.
I was not so brave. I installed in dual boot, but I just never booted back into windows.
Or the pirates
Or stay on Windows 10, if the pattern holds true Windows 12 might be decent again.
kshadeDon’t hold your breath, 10 already broke the pattern IMO and all I hear about 12 is that they will cram “AI” into everything.
That's because they've integrated it into the start menu.
Evil, yes. But technically correct.
Evil, yes. But technically correct.
GloriousGoudaThis is the one thing that justfied buying an enterprise licensing model for my C level overlords.
“[…] switching the default search engine back to Bing […] from Google Search (or whatever other browser is set as default).”
Google is a Browser now, neat. And somehow it’s relevant in a post about search engines.
“Microsoft Edge, the default browser pre-installed on Windows machines, and Bing Search aren’t bad products by any means - they are solid alternatives to Google’s own Chrome and Search.”
They may be good compared to Chrome and now also Google. But even rotten eggs are better than literal shit, at least for most people.
Microsoft needs to be broken up.
Any company that can be so blatantly anti consumer and still makes boatloads of money is obviously abusing its dominant position on the market.
Didn’t happen with Apple, or IBM, or Google, or Facebook, or…
BroBot9000Not yet…
Wasn’t IBM broken up into different hardware and software companies? Or an I thinking of someone else
Not ibm. You might be thinking of Bell: en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Breakup_of_the_Bell_System
Nah that’s obvious. There was a major supercomputer company that split up their hardware and software soon after software wasn’t strictly for one machine anymore.
Which company?
Lexi SneptaurImagine you have a computer that’s been compromised by malware. What do you think the search engine will be set to? Not Google, not Bing, probably some third party one that has ads and malware. Changing that to Bing would technically qualify as a repair.
They could easily improve this by just adding a list of common reputable search engines, and adding those to an allow list.
What a fucking stupid argument.
Glad you had something useful and helpful to add to the discussion. Have you ever in your life heard of “playing devils advocate”? Read a book some time.
As a Linux aficionado, I appreciate you trying to bring an argument for Windows in good faith and a potential way for Microsoft to improve it. This is even if steering people to Bing is Microsoft’s intention with this move so they are unlikely to improve it in the way you suggested.
Since forever, Microsoft-affiliated products are often the only things that get the “trusted” label within the Microsoft ecosystem.
Yeah it’s not ideal. I just don’t see a world where Microsoft will set people’s search engine to DuckDuckGo
Isn’t this exactly what got them broken up last time?
Yeah, but back then you Americans had a government. I can’t see it happening with your current circus.
The EU, however, is already looking at MS over teams monopoly practises (fucking finally!), I’m hoping edge and copilot/bing are on their radar too!
Jo MiranWhen I made this, I did not expect I’d use it much. Then…Windows 11.
Windows: System needs repairing
Me: proceeds to install linux mint
Please microsoft, become the ad platform you’re destined to become and give users a reason to move to linux.
I use a mixture of Linux and Windows 10 LTSC on my PCs/servers/VMs. I will be the first to admit that Windows does sometimes make sense to use. My desktop PC and my dev environment are both Windows 10.
That being said, what is the advantage in using Windows 11 over 10? As far as I can tell, it’s worse in every way. Built-in ads, a crappier UI, forced obsolescence with TPM requirements, and “feature” bloat that nobody asked for.
10 was a clear improvement over 8, but 11 just seems all-around worse.
what is the advantage in using Windows 11 over 10?
Many years ago, I was at a Windows XP launch event and the Microsoft Rep had a really honest line:
“Why should you start using Windows XP? Because we’re going to stop supporting Windows 98!”
And ya, that’s pretty much been the cattle prod Microsoft uses to push new versions, eventually you stop getting security updates for the older OS and at some point there are enough security vulnerabilities which make it no longer safe for daily use. That said, with Windows becoming more and more user hostile, other options start to make more sense.
I’d like to hope that by the time Win10 is no longer supported, we have Win12 that doesn’t suck. The way things are going, though, I doubt it. I’m expecting that Win10 will be the last version of Windows I use.
I still prefer Windows over Linux for gaming and software development, but everyone has their limit. I am strongly opposed to advertisements, and when I can no longer block ads from my operating system, it’s dead to me.
Windows 12 will probably be subscription based and cloud only
I never upgraded software-wise. Moreso my tech got so outdated that new hardware I’d get (I only use Windows for gaming) would have the latest Windows installed - exactly what Microsoft wants.
I think Proton/Linux in the past year is going to really disrupt that strategy.
That being said, what is the advantage in using Windows 11 over 10?
Windows 11 re-introduced Clippy as an emoji:
Holy shit, really?
My change controls written in comic sans are going to a new level!
Lol, I don’t even use Windows… heh !!!
Damn I’m somewhat indifferent to windows as my main PC os, mostly because I’ve got all my weird music hardware and a couple of decades worth of plugins working nicely. But this shit is getting annoying, so…
I have extensive experience with Linux on servers and I keep umming and ahhing about switching to it as my main desktop OS—let’s see if anyone here is in the venn diagram that can answer this:
I’m a software engineer, all of that is cool, but I’m also pretty into music production
I would need to run Ableton with a Push 3 and Maschine with my M+. I’ve got simpler controllers like a beatstep pro, but I’m expecting those to be fine. And then would I be able to use my expert sleepers modular interfaces properly? Obviously I want this all with low latency.
After hardware I’ve got all sorts of vsts across tens of companies, some need my ilok key, I’ve got my Steinberg stuff too, but they’ve moved to online licensing finally.
Alternatives to the software are great (I know I can use bitwig natively, for example), but it’s a non starter unless I can run it all, I’ve got years of projects that I would want to be able to open and start messing with the music, rather than spending most of my time messing with the software and losing what inspiration made me open the software in the first place
From someone with experience in this area, how viable is this?
I’d say keep that machine as is, and whenever you build a new one, just put whichever distro you like. If possible I’d roll back to win10 and after support ends, keep that machine VLAN’d off the internet. This way you turn it into a music production appliance without disrupting your workflow