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eestileib May 15, 2024

He’s not wrong, the two main parties absolutely do collude to create a duopoly.

He’s also the wrong messenger to deliver the message.

TropicalDingdong May 15, 2024

He’s polling at 10% nationally. He should be included.

Drusas May 15, 2024

The rules say it has to be 15%.

It’s an arbitrary percentage they came up with in 2000. It should be lower, and it’s not like they stick closely to their own made up rules.

Lowering the percentage would be another step toward breaking this ridiculous 2 party system.

Blackbeard

Lowering the percentage puts us back in 1992, and we saw where that led us: To today, where the 2 party system is as strong as it ever was. Giving RFK airtime does nothing to meaningfully alter the US political landscape, or the fundamental structure of our election rules.

Hard disagree. He has the possibility to siphon off enough trump voters to maybe give Biden a way to win. We also didn’t have two 80 year olds on stage back then. The people deserve debate

He also has the possibility to siphon off enough Biden voters to maybe give Trump a way to win. Neither of them have an incentive to give him airtime, and no offense, but as a society I’m not sure I’d say we “deserve” anything, much less a WWE-style debate where a bunch of old dudes yell at each other.

There is no way he’s pulling anyone away from Biden lol Especially at this point considering Biden’s stance on Israel. AND yes, the society should see what state the “democracy” is in, it’s the only way for people to maybe get the hint that the current system is broken and needs to be fixed.

However, focusing just on those who will definitely vote for Kennedy, Biden loses just 4% of his current support and Trump loses only 3%. Among voters who are not backing either Biden or Trump at this time, about half say they will definitely (15%) or probably (34%) support Kennedy. Another way to look at these results is that about 3 in 10 potential Kennedy supporters would otherwise be inclined to vote for Trump and a similar 3 in 10 would otherwise lean toward Biden, with the remaining 4 in 10 Kennedy backers being people who do not support either major party candidate..

There is no way he’s pulling anyone away from Biden lol

Factually incorrect:

1 in 5 Consider Voting for RFK Jr. But it Doesn’t Change Overall Race | Monmouth University Polling Institute

Few voters are happy about a Biden-Trump rematch

Monmouth University Polling Institute

That’s from December of last year lol AND are we all accepting poll from monotheism university as facts? lol

Here’s one from a month ago, and an ad hominem retort is flatly unconvincing and uninspiring.

Analysis | Will Kennedy play spoiler at the state level? New polling says … maybe.

Close races in swing states remain close even with independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in the mix.

Washington Post

Again, are we considering polls to be counted as factual? Especially pre-dead-worm-in-brain announcement? Polling is inaccurate and the current methods of capture are outdated and don’t offer a reflective sample. Polls are not something you can say are factual

Oh…you’re one of those.