MicroWaveMay 14, 2024

Biden announces 100% tariff on Chinese-made electric vehicles

https://lemmy.world/post/15390720

Biden announces 100% tariff on Chinese-made electric vehicles - Lemmy.World

White House levy to protect US makers from cheap imports likely to inflame trade tensions The US president, Joe Biden, has announced a 100% tariff on Chinese-made electric vehicles as part of a package of measures designed to protect US manufacturers from cheap imports. In a move that is likely to inflame trade tensions between the world’s two biggest economies, the White House said it was imposing more stringent curbs on Chinese goods worth $18bn. Sources said the move followed a four-year review and was a preventive measure designed to stop cheap subsidised Chinese goods flooding the US market and stifling the growth of the American green technology sector. … Despite the risks of retaliation from Beijing, Biden said the increased levies were a proportionate response to China’s overcapacity in the EV sector. Sources said China was producing 30m EVs a year but could sell only 22-23m domestically.

Show threadblazera
Throw another one on the pile of reasons to not support him.
May 14, 2024 at 12:02pmWeb
Show threaddan1101May 14, 2024
Trump would be no better. If I had to make a rough scorecard it would be Biden 55 and Trump about 4.
Show threadMaddier1993May 14, 2024
It’s sad that you think “Not Biden” defaults to “Trump”
Show threadtoasteecupMay 14, 2024

It’s sad that for anyone to vote for a candidate in the US it actually is Trump or Biden.

You’re welcome to say 3rd party all you want but that 1% of the vote ain’t saying much good.

Show thread2fat4thatMay 14, 2024
That is 100% the current situation.
Show threadCybermonk_TaijiMay 16, 2024
It LITERALLY does on this election cycle. That’s it, reality is real.
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
The only two people that exist in the world
Show thread2fat4thatMay 14, 2024
Welcome to the two-party system. If you’d ever like that to change, you have a better chance of doing that with a democrat majority.
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
why would I have any chance at all with either of the two parties that are perpetuating it?
Show threadCybermonk_TaijiMay 15, 2024
So what’s your plan?
Show threadblazeraMay 15, 2024
Voting
Show threadCybermonk_TaijiMay 16, 2024
How is voting going to help if the only two choices you have to vote for won’t solve the problem? What is voting specifically going to do to fix the problem as you see it?
Show threadblazeraMay 16, 2024
Theres not only two choices
Show threadCybermonk_TaijiMay 16, 2024
Foolishness
Show threadblazeraMay 16, 2024
Is germany foolish for having more than two choices?
Show threadCybermonk_TaijiMay 17, 2024
This isn’t Germany, what the actual fuck is wrong with you?
Show threadblazeraMay 17, 2024
They had an actual dictator and now theyre putting our democracy to shame. American voters are pathetic
Show threadCybermonk_TaijiMay 17, 2024
Look up first past the post voting versus ranked choice voting. The system here is broken by design, it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, but this year we have to defend against more attempts at authoritarian takeover and the loss of what little democracy we have here. It’s a serious fucking situation not time to pine for what could have been. If you want real democracy to ever have a chance here first you have to defeat those trying to kill it entirely.
Show threadblazeraMay 17, 2024
Im well aware of ranked choice voting, the candidate im voting for has it in their campaign platform. It doesnt just manifest out of thin air.
Show threaddan1101May 15, 2024
You can vote for me and I wouldn’t mess it up as much as Biden or especially Trump. But 2 votes aren’t enough to beat millions.
Show threadSuiXi3DMay 14, 2024
Like, I agree, but do you actually think Trump is a better choice?
Show threadMaddier1993May 14, 2024

It’s sad that people come out of the woodworks like you only to invoke the orange man whenever somebody says they don’t agree with something Biden is doing. I mean, leaving the MAGA crowd out for now… don’t you think we can have a better conversation trying to think beyond the next presidential race?

We know there’s probably some anti-Biden propaganda around. We get it. How about you assume for one moment that whoever it is you are replying to is actually smart enough to understand what it means to elect Trump and are already aware to vote for Biden in the general election? Why don’t you actually address the problems with Biden without comparing him to Trump?

Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
I think supporting someone other than Biden or Trump is a better choice
Show threadSuiXi3DMay 14, 2024
If we had ranked choice voting, sure. However, in our current two party system with first past the post voting, there are only two choices that actually matter. It fucking sucks.
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
Im tired of hearing people fight against what they want. You know who supports ranked choice voting? The Green Party candidate for president.
Show threadSuiXi3DMay 14, 2024
Ah yes, Jill Stein, known to take Russian money. That’ll surely help things.
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
got a source on that? Or just the usual assumptions
Show threadevergreenMay 14, 2024

Ive never seen any credible evidence of an actual transfer of funds to Stein from Russia, but there is definitely evidence that they support her in order to siphon votes from the Democratic candidate. U.S. elections affect the entire world and it is no surprise that enemies of the U.S. are going to use every resource they can to alter the results in their favor.

nbcnews.com/…/russians-launched-pro-jill-stein-so…

www.intelligence.senate.gov/…/Report_Volume2.pdf

Russians launched pro-Jill Stein social media blitz to help Trump win election, reports say

The Russian effort to interfere with the 2016 presidential election focused in part on boosting Green Party candidate Jill Stein to aid Trump, reports say.

NBC News
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024

Ive never seen any credible evidence of an actual transfer of funds to Stein from Russia

alright, that’s all Stein is responsible for. Can we vote for ranked choice now?

Show threadevergreenMay 15, 2024
Sure but if we fail to succeed, which is highly likely, then we get to plunge the country into fascism, y’all qaeda style sharia law, aiding and abetting Putin, etc. I’m sure you’ve heard it before though.
Show threadNoIWontPickANameMay 14, 2024
And they have no reason to change it as long as you fall in line
Show threadXtallllMay 14, 2024
And if wishes were pennies, we would all be rich.
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
you wishing for a Biden presidency
Show threadTrashboatMay 14, 2024
Compared to Trump? You’re absolutely freakin right
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
but I cant compare someone else favorably to Trump.
Show threadTrashboatMay 14, 2024
Not really, because unless you can convince a majority of Americans to vote third party, which is unbelievably unlikely, then Biden or Trump are the options. On top of that, when you start pulling left wing votes away from Biden, it makes it easier for Trump to win unless you hit the point of majority support, which is again incredibly unlikely. I wish that weren’t the reality, but that’s how it is currently, and I hella do not want another term of Trump as I believe that’d be genuinely ruinous.
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
hate self fulfilling prophecies, people act like they dont have free will.
Show threadTrashboatMay 14, 2024
It’s not that I don’t want it to change, it’s that I’m exceedingly doubtful it’ll happen in a single election via a third party unless we get a knight in shining armor that sweeps the voters off their feet. Of the two parties we currently really have a choice between, the Dems are the only one that have a chance of improving the situation, as the republicans are purely regressive. So my hope and what I think is more realistically possible is that they can be a stepping stone towards improving the system in the long run. But if we do get the knight in shining armor that has an actual chance, they’ll get my vote
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
Do you understand what i mean by self fulfilling prophecy? There is only one thing that is preventing a third party contender from being seen as viable: not being seen as viable. You’re never going to get a knight in shining armor that has a chance, because you yourself will make sure no one gets a chance.
Show thread2fat4thatMay 14, 2024
Settle down, comrade. You’re not talking me into throwing away my vote by citing my free will lol. The current flavors being sold are vanilla and fascism. Vanilla sounds fine.
Show threadblazeraMay 14, 2024
how many times have you had to wave away active villainy by comparing him to ice cream?
Show threadCybermonk_TaijiMay 16, 2024
And I hate self deluded fools who can’t see what’s going on in the actual world and instead retreat into fantasy land, but here we are.
Show threadblazeraMay 16, 2024
Whats going on in the actual world is a lot of much more representative governments in other countries, with several political parties elected. Theyve got voters with free will that vote for who they want and theyve got way more progressive policies going as a result.
Show threadCybermonk_TaijiMay 16, 2024
That has absolutely nothing to do with the current election in the United States and you know that. The future may bring change but this year this is all we fucking have. That’s it.
Show threadblazeraMay 17, 2024

Are all americans just born with a disability that makes them incapable of voting for someone outside of 2 parties? The other countries are proof of the possibility you insist is impossible. Howd they do it, huh?

We’re in the future, we’re in a future several decades past people like you saying we have no choice but to vote for one of two people. Why would you think the future would bring change as you fight against any attempt at change? Cant wait for 2040, trump jr vs a banking lobbyist

Show threadHubertManneMay 14, 2024
yeah I love globalism. its been so great.
Show threadtsonfeirMay 14, 2024
Yeah, don’t forget to vote for him though.