Mother fatally mauled by pack of dogs in Quitman, Georgia, 3 children taken to hospital

https://lemmy.world/post/15361666

Mother fatally mauled by pack of dogs in Quitman, Georgia, 3 children taken to hospital - Lemmy.World

cue the:

“They were such sweet PIT BULLS, we’re trying to figure out what the kids did to them!”

Dollars to donuts shitbulls we’re involved.
I bet irresponsible owners were involved.
I mean yeah they already said that were shitbull owners
Every pitbull owner is, by definition, irresponsible
Logic not your strong suit is it?
The breed should be extinguished. It serves no purpose other than dogfighting, mauling children, and wasting precious space in shelters.
Why don’t you personally go around and “exterminate” this one breed of dog? Carry out your personal dog-ocide, you fuckin hypocrite.
You stop breeding them, you don’t go around and kill dogs wtf is wrong with you.
I almost got mauled in the South. 100% irresponsible owners and nothing to do with the breed.

“I got hit by a tricycle”

“I got hit by an f150”

Something tells me it wasn’t a pomeranian
An irresponsible owner with a Yorkie can get your socks bitten, an irresponsible owner with a pitbull can kill you.
An irresponsible owner of a golden/newfie/GSD/dobie/St. Bernard/whatever can kill you too, it’s not the dog breed’s fault that idiots are attracted to them.

That’s disingenuous, especially with the livestock guardian, rescue, and hunting dog breeds you listed - precisely because those were the traits selected for when creating those breeds.

Even GSD and Dobermans don’t carry the specific risk that Pitbulls do, because their jobs require different behavioral traits that are very different then dog fighting.

Do you believe that pitbulls are the only working dog breed whose characteristics and behavior is completely independent of the selective breeding process used to create them?

Yes, all dogs carry some risk, especially large dogs, and exponentially when combined with a responsible owner.

Yes, pitbulls can be extremely sweet and affectionate dogs, but that doesn’t change the fact that they were intentionally bred to be the best in class breed for dog fighting

Again, I like pitbulls, a lot, but that doesn’t mean I can pretend that pitbulls are the only working breed whose behavioral traits are completely independent of their breeding.

Yeah, blame the dogs.
ThEy ArE nAnNy DoGs

The article is not conclusive. There are always going to be outliers in a case by case basis.

From the same article:

“Still, after decades of treating, showing, and judging countless breeds, AKC’s chief veterinary officer, Jerry Klein, disputes the study’s conclusions. “I think most dogs conform to the personality standard of their breed,” he says.”

People:

Bloodhounds are renowned for their sense of smell due to intentional selective-breeding.

Greyhounds are renowned for their incredible speed and ability due to intentional selective-breeding.

Border Collies are renowned as the premium choice of herding dog due to intentional selective-breeding.

The exact same people:

Intentional slective-breeding has ZERO impact on pitbulls!!!

Sure, dude.

Awww, adorable, you think we're talking about their personalities and not their bone crushing jaws.
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Awww, adorable, you think other dogs have safe jaws and aren’t an inherently unsafe animal to have around.
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Lol I owned a German Shepard. I'm fine with banning all those breeds.

But pitbulls would be The reason it had to happen.

Almost all dogs have that ability. That’s what their molars are for… That’s a trait they retain from their wolf ancestors.

Small breed dogs already outnumber and outlive large breeds with a smaller environmental footprint.

But sure

"AlMoSt AlL"

Where are you getting these statistics?
Having been a dog owner for all my life, small breed dogs are also way more likely to have a bad temperament and bite people.

And how often do they fatally maul?

If I accidentally shoot you with an airsoft bb, it’ll hurt, and that’s bad.

If I accidentally shoot you with a 9mm it’ll kill.

Except you don’t “accidentally shoot” someone. That’s negligence.
Keep going with that one. What’s it called when you accidentally let your dog maul someone?

So…Pitbulls were bred for a purpose, just like all other working dog breeds were.

That doesn’t mean they’re all inherently bad dogs, but it does mean they carry significantly more risk then other breeds.

Unless you actually believe that they’re the only working breed not created with by selectively breeding for specific hereditary behavioral characteristics?

Someone better be going away for manslaughter.

Y’all should just go ahead and lock this one.

It’s only gonna get worse from here.

It’d be a shame to offend a dog.
Locking threads because you don’t like the discourse is such bullshit

Or we just acknowledge there is an “assault rifle” of dogs.

Some can own them without issue their whole life.

Some use them (in this case allow them) to cause disproportionate harm, beyond the norm.

Should it be illegal to own? No.

Should stringent training and care standards be in place? Yes.

We don’t know the breed involved yet but we’re mostly assuming it’s pitbulls. They’re illegal to own here in the UK because they keep killing people.
restrict all Assault Dogs!

If you’re going to compare them to assault rifles, kinda weird to then suggest that they shouldn’t be banned.

Both should be banned.

I don’t have to describe all facets of all topics.

Assault rifles are already regulated and I’d be stoked to see dangerous dogs at least regulated

Assault Rifles were completely illegal until 2004. Since then mass shootings have skyrocketed, with the majority being committed with Assault Rifles.

If you want to make an argument about something, you should probably know what you’re talking about. I am arguing that we should go back to the way things were in 2003 when you could not legally own an assault rifle without significant credentials.

Assault Rifles are a bad idea, and do more damage than good. Same with Pitbulls. None of this “individual responsibility” bullshit, I want less dead people.

Miss.

You could buy an assault rifles in any year with the right paperwork. It was just incredibly hard to acquire.

Regarding recent mass shootings, you’re thinking of semi automatic ar15s so maybe check your shit

I wasn’t licensure, accountability and consequences

Oh no, not golden retrievers again /s
I have a golden and she’s awesome and gentle. That said, I had heard because there’s so many goldens, they are the number one dog for total number of dog bites on children. I guess even a golden has their limits and a kid can find that limit unerringly.
This is why per capita stats exist.
We all need to agree that pits are at the very least a very advance dog for an owner, they need extra care and training. They should never be dogs just anyone can get.

My friends that are pit owners are always freaking out about how the breed is stigmatized.

I don’t personally have a problem with pits, but yo: an aggressive pit is a far bigger problem than some terrier. There are some awful dog owners out there; a fact reinforced by the heaps of dog shit I see on the sidewalk outside of my job. Those same people are supposedly training a powerfully bred canine to not be an asshole by checks notes being neglectful. Cool

Technically pit bulls are some terrier.

I don’t get why people think one breed is worse than another. I have had Rottweilers, bullies, staffies, most of these “dangerous” breeds.

They have all been very good dogs, some I would say were some of the most gentle giant type dogs I’ve had, because I didn’t train them to be aggressive.

Just because a bully dog tends to be owned by a twat that likes to kick it and encourage it to attack other animals doesn’t mean all dogs of that breed are the same.

You can tell me all day that YOUR Pitbulls is sweet and docile and wouldn’t hurt a fly, but I don’t believe you or trust you, keep that animal away from me and any children in sight
You’re part of the problem
I keep them on leads unless in remote locations. You judge me and these animals based on the worst minority demographic of dog owners.

About 75% of pit attacks are by dogs with “good” owners and a general docile disposition. They undergo the PBMS (pit bull mental snap). This is why in most cases the owner is gobsmacked that their dog did such a thing.

Attacks by bad pits or pits with shitty owners are actually the minority.

And I’ll insist that if there is a problem, fault almost certainly lies in the owner or the victim, more than the dog or breed of dog.
This was similar to mob behavior in humans. Most dog breeds would act similar in that situation, whether they were Pits or not.
The breeds of the dogs weren't specified according to this article.

Cox said about a dozen dogs went after Williams' three children....

No one needs to own a dozen dogs, outside of niche cases like service dog training programs. Certainly no one should have a dozen "pet" dogs. Clearly an irresponsible owner situation.

Afaik the max here is 6, if you have more, you need to be registered.
Anyways this incident must be the responsibility of the owner, he has not secured his dogs properly. Obviously they all need to be put down, and the owner should be tried for manslaughter IMO. What the law says however IDK.
Maybe some sort of causing death through negligence.

Edit: just looked it up, the max is 4 adult dogs. More is considered a kennel and requires permission. (Denmark)