Mother fatally mauled by pack of dogs in Quitman, Georgia, 3 children taken to hospital
Mother fatally mauled by pack of dogs in Quitman, Georgia, 3 children taken to hospital
cue the:
“They were such sweet PIT BULLS, we’re trying to figure out what the kids did to them!”
“I got hit by a tricycle”
“I got hit by an f150”
That’s disingenuous, especially with the livestock guardian, rescue, and hunting dog breeds you listed - precisely because those were the traits selected for when creating those breeds.
Even GSD and Dobermans don’t carry the specific risk that Pitbulls do, because their jobs require different behavioral traits that are very different then dog fighting.
Do you believe that pitbulls are the only working dog breed whose characteristics and behavior is completely independent of the selective breeding process used to create them?
Yes, all dogs carry some risk, especially large dogs, and exponentially when combined with a responsible owner.
Yes, pitbulls can be extremely sweet and affectionate dogs, but that doesn’t change the fact that they were intentionally bred to be the best in class breed for dog fighting
Again, I like pitbulls, a lot, but that doesn’t mean I can pretend that pitbulls are the only working breed whose behavioral traits are completely independent of their breeding.
The article is not conclusive. There are always going to be outliers in a case by case basis.
From the same article:
“Still, after decades of treating, showing, and judging countless breeds, AKC’s chief veterinary officer, Jerry Klein, disputes the study’s conclusions. “I think most dogs conform to the personality standard of their breed,” he says.”
People:
Bloodhounds are renowned for their sense of smell due to intentional selective-breeding.
Greyhounds are renowned for their incredible speed and ability due to intentional selective-breeding.
Border Collies are renowned as the premium choice of herding dog due to intentional selective-breeding.
The exact same people:
Intentional slective-breeding has ZERO impact on pitbulls!!!
Sure, dude.
Lol I owned a German Shepard. I'm fine with banning all those breeds.
But pitbulls would be The reason it had to happen.
Small breed dogs already outnumber and outlive large breeds with a smaller environmental footprint.
But sure
"AlMoSt AlL"
And how often do they fatally maul?
If I accidentally shoot you with an airsoft bb, it’ll hurt, and that’s bad.
If I accidentally shoot you with a 9mm it’ll kill.
So…Pitbulls were bred for a purpose, just like all other working dog breeds were.
That doesn’t mean they’re all inherently bad dogs, but it does mean they carry significantly more risk then other breeds.
Unless you actually believe that they’re the only working breed not created with by selectively breeding for specific hereditary behavioral characteristics?
Y’all should just go ahead and lock this one.
It’s only gonna get worse from here.
Or we just acknowledge there is an “assault rifle” of dogs.
Some can own them without issue their whole life.
Some use them (in this case allow them) to cause disproportionate harm, beyond the norm.
Should it be illegal to own? No.
Should stringent training and care standards be in place? Yes.
If you’re going to compare them to assault rifles, kinda weird to then suggest that they shouldn’t be banned.
Both should be banned.
I don’t have to describe all facets of all topics.
Assault rifles are already regulated and I’d be stoked to see dangerous dogs at least regulated
Assault Rifles were completely illegal until 2004. Since then mass shootings have skyrocketed, with the majority being committed with Assault Rifles.
If you want to make an argument about something, you should probably know what you’re talking about. I am arguing that we should go back to the way things were in 2003 when you could not legally own an assault rifle without significant credentials.
Assault Rifles are a bad idea, and do more damage than good. Same with Pitbulls. None of this “individual responsibility” bullshit, I want less dead people.
Miss.
You could buy an assault rifles in any year with the right paperwork. It was just incredibly hard to acquire.
Regarding recent mass shootings, you’re thinking of semi automatic ar15s so maybe check your shit
I wasn’t licensure, accountability and consequences
My friends that are pit owners are always freaking out about how the breed is stigmatized.
I don’t personally have a problem with pits, but yo: an aggressive pit is a far bigger problem than some terrier. There are some awful dog owners out there; a fact reinforced by the heaps of dog shit I see on the sidewalk outside of my job. Those same people are supposedly training a powerfully bred canine to not be an asshole by checks notes being neglectful. Cool
I don’t get why people think one breed is worse than another. I have had Rottweilers, bullies, staffies, most of these “dangerous” breeds.
They have all been very good dogs, some I would say were some of the most gentle giant type dogs I’ve had, because I didn’t train them to be aggressive.
Just because a bully dog tends to be owned by a twat that likes to kick it and encourage it to attack other animals doesn’t mean all dogs of that breed are the same.
About 75% of pit attacks are by dogs with “good” owners and a general docile disposition. They undergo the PBMS (pit bull mental snap). This is why in most cases the owner is gobsmacked that their dog did such a thing.
Attacks by bad pits or pits with shitty owners are actually the minority.
Cox said about a dozen dogs went after Williams' three children....
No one needs to own a dozen dogs, outside of niche cases like service dog training programs. Certainly no one should have a dozen "pet" dogs. Clearly an irresponsible owner situation.
Afaik the max here is 6, if you have more, you need to be registered.
Anyways this incident must be the responsibility of the owner, he has not secured his dogs properly. Obviously they all need to be put down, and the owner should be tried for manslaughter IMO. What the law says however IDK.
Maybe some sort of causing death through negligence.
Edit: just looked it up, the max is 4 adult dogs. More is considered a kennel and requires permission. (Denmark)