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“bbbbut thuh Dems haven’t done anything to EARN my vote” and other such brain dead takes from ding dongs who don’t understand basic pragmatic logic.
Neither of us can convince someone whose friends had their asses beat by cops at a university protesting Biden’s action. Only Biden can do that, by ending the genocide.
When dems lose for not doing the things they need to do to get elected, are you going to blame the dems or are you going to blame every single voter in the US for not voting for a party that shows nothing but contempt for them?
Dems lose? We all lose. You people seem to forget you’re fucking everyone. Your feelings don’t matter, outcomes do. If you know Trump wins in this scenario, and you know there may be no more free elections, how does this “force the Dems to learn for next time?” Braindead ideological bullshit. You’re a fucking cult.
Why the hell are you coming at me then? I can’t control the dems policies, nor can I change the psychology of muslims to vote for a guy who is facilitating genocide. Nothing I say would convince someone who is struggling to pay rent because their student loans were resumed by executive order.
The only thing either of us can do is pressure the dems to do the things they need to do to get elected. If Biden stops the genocide, then I could tell muslims “Hey, if you don’t vote Biden, Trump will resume it”, and college grads “Hey, if you don’t vote Biden, Trump will resume loan repayments”, but I can’t do that because he doesn’t give me shit to work with.
One fucking Google search and this was the second link: politico.com/…/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-mig…
That’s nice, but it’s really hard to convince someone to vote when the knife is still being pushed deeper into them. Stopping further damage done via gaza and student loans are an absolute minimum. The bar is underwater when I have to set it at “Not actively making your personal material conditions worse”.
Also some of those were objectively bad, such as increasing militarism and oil production.
It’s obvious you didn’t even read one sentence of the link. I know you and the troll farm have a job to do with your “Genocide Joe” rhetoric, but we’re tired of it and don’t want you here.
Except I referenced multiple things in that link; 3 of them were increased militarism, 1 was that oil production in the US had increased. Those are objectively bad things.
I would argue domestic production of oil is a generally good thing, or at least neutral/balanced thing.
Yeah, we need to get away from oil, and we need more green generation, but that takes a long time. There’s a quick win in producing more domestically, by not having to import oil from halfway across the world, and also reducing foreign dependence for energy.
Problem is, last I heard, we are exporting most domestic oil now.
No, it’s not neutral, as oil prices increase, the incentive to invest in green energy increases. There’s a reason US cars gas efficiency was abysmal until the oil embargo incentivized gas efficiency.
Oil prices should already be higher as it is. It costs roughly $4.40 just to recapture the CO2 that gets emitted from 1 gallon of gas. Gas should be closer to $10/gal (to capture the carbon emitted, and to pay for renewable subsidies, and the market price of oil itself).
But who would that hit? All of the expenses of higher fuel get sent down the consumer in the end, who is already getting squeezed for every cent.
That’s why I didn’t mention oil price at all. That’s a very delicate issue all of its own. How do we severe our dependence on fossil fuels entirely, while also not destroying the economy? Not just the fatcats but every day folk too. We have to have more carrots for renewables and more sticks for fossil fuels…but too many sticks will collapse the whole damn thing. Not to mention carrots public transit and walkable/bikable communities and everything else we should have in “the best and most advanced country in the world”. We’re a disgrace. We’re not even the best and most advanced country in America. God damn koolaid turned sour.
There’s other ways we can relieve the consumer, such as removing the tariff on Chinese EVs and other green technology so they can afford it. Instead Biden is quadrupling it. Naturally Trump is already promising to raise it further so anyone who likes tariffs are going to vote Trump anyway, and anyone who wants a cheap EV just sees Biden in their way.
Like Biden’s border policy and foreign policy, it’s morally wrong, but more importantly, every effort to appeal to “moderate republicans” is just electorally stupid. The fascists aren’t gonna vote for diet fascism when they can have the real thing.
The Chinese government is heavily subsidizing the costs of those vehicles, both directly and through their labor practices. By exporting them to the US at a price-point that includes Chinese subsidies, it is an economic attack on our automotive industry. The Chinese government is basically paying half the cost of the car and the net effect would be to destabilize our domestic auto industry.
Put another way, it is not possible to have a car, made with fair labor practices, at that price, without direct government subsidies.
For the administration to not levy a tariff is essentially akin to bending over and taking their economic offense up the ass.
Apologies for citing Bloomberg, but it’s the data they’re citing that matters here: bloomberg.com/…/us-europe-gripes-on-china-overcap…
China’s export prices for passenger vehicles have been increasing since at least Covid. If they were dumping/selling at a loss, we would expect it would decrease.
They sell for half the price domestically as they do rebranded in Europe because there is a strong domestic subsidy, but America has that too.
