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Cool_Name May 12, 2024

I have never sinned

I have never sinned - Lemmy.World

It is freeing to recognize that I have never sinned and it pissed Christians off when I say this. To clarify, in Christianity sin is not simply “the bad things we do” it is specifically an offense against god. God does not exists so i have never sinned against him. I’ve been an atheist for for 16 years but it was only recently that I realized this distinction. It short-circuits the guilt based evangelism. It forces the christian to first demonstrate that god exists before they can convince me I have sinned and need to be saved from that sin. And to say the least, they are ill equipped to demonstrate the existence of god.

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LemmyKnowsBest May 12, 2024

If you ever broke the law like even rolling through a stop sign, or bigger crimes like theft or murder, would you still consider yourself not a sinner?

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froh42

No I don’t, at all. I follow a few moral rules, like “Don’t be an asshole”. I actively don’t try to hurt other people. But there is no superior being that makes me do it, whose will I bend to.

By the way, this was my road to atheism: As a teenager, brought up with a few christian viewpoints (nothing like in the US) I one day thought

if I only am behaving “well” because I will be judged one day, I’m still not a good person.
if I want to be a morally good person I need to be that person out of my own free inner will
if I am, I need no judge, therefore god is irrelevant

Then I stayed with atheistic agnosticism (god is improbable but possible) for another 30 years or so.

Calling myself an atheist now, as I do not BELIEVE gods exist (*) , but the nonexistence of something can not be scientifically proven.

*= Of course gods “exist”. Gods are an idea, thought up by many human minds, as a shared idea they really are potent things. GOD IS A MEME. Therefore gods are everything and as powerful as religious people believe.