some_guyTrump-appointed judge halts Biden administration credit card late fee cap
Yeh, but the late fees are good for people. Free market and free market. Drain the swamp etc. Just pay your debt on time. Or something, both side the same, yada yada.
A great example of the current presidency trying to do something good for a lot of people.
JustEnoughDucksIt’s funny that the literal industry posterboy for not paying debts on time his entire career is now leading that crowd of “just pay your debts” 😂 He still isn’t doing it himself, even with other people putting up the money to pay his debts for him
Boomer Humor DoomergodEvery time we elect a Republican president we have to start rolling the ball all the way back up the hill again. Every goddamn time.
Good news! Apparently a lot of excitingly new young progressives are mad we haven’t rolled it back up high enough and are refusing to help!
Wait. Okay, not good news. Sorry.
I don’t blame people for giving up on a Sisyphean task
They just don’t recognize that they’ll be crushed first when it rolls back. Maturity is learning not to commit all of your attention to the top of the mountain, but to always be mindful of the boulder.
Maturity is learning not to commit all of your attention to the top of the mountain, but to always be mindful of the boulder.
That is beautiful and so very true.
I chuckled at the first commenter’s description of this as a boulder, but honestly the metaphor is pretty robust.
Rock solid you might say.
Granite that I agree with the sediment.
They are getting crushed anyway.
Even without “both sides”, the situation worldwide is fucked. And “neither side” is going to change much. Yes, one is worse, but the better side still offers a bandaid over a gushing wound.
So I don’t really blame them.
We just need to help them understand the system better. I voted third-party when was young, and many of my friends abstained. That was due to a lack of education about our government. It’s not about swaying them to vote one way or the other, but just to help them understand how our system functions. After that, if they want to vote for Trump with conviction, so be it. At least it’ll be an informed decision.
I will say it: fuck the system.
The sooner it’s gone, the better.
It won’t be pretty, but this isn’t leading us to paradise either, we are killing the planet and can’t even take the foot off the gas.
We need a hard reset, and it’s coming. In the best scenario, the system is taken down before the enviromental collapse.
Are you an accelerationist? Do you believe making things worse faster will lead to systemic change for the better?
I believe the current path is leading to a bad ending, guaranteed.
And all I’m saying is that I don’t blame young people who may think other options might lead to something better.
Anyone who believes there are more than two choices in this election was poorly educated on American democracy. I know I was when I voted Green Party at 20 years old. If I can help educate those that are as ill-informed as I was, I feel it’s my duty. After that, the choice is theirs.
The whole point I’m trying to make is that the system doesn’t work, voting lesser of two evils never helped in any meaningful way.
We need to stop capitalism, or we will all die, or at the very least suffer greatly.
That’s the whole point.
I’m not from the US, so I can’t vote for either side anyway, but we are all fucked. I watch the children and feel sorry for letting them down. They will not grow up into a world of peace and prosperity, only desolation and dystopia.
So while yes, Orange man very bad, the system will kill us anyway. Fascism will take your country, but capitalism took our entire planet.
Yep. Just vote and don’t expect to get to the top. We’re never getting there. We just vote and vote and vote and then eventually we die, pushing the same boulder the entire time.
It’s far from ideal, but the problem is that we let it roll back every 4-8 years. If Democrats consistently won due to progressive policies, the candidates would inevitably become more progressive to capture more of the constituency. Disengagement and disenfranchisement consistently cause the boulder to fall, leading to the lack of overall progress.
And because that doesn’t happen, I just have to assume that Americans aren’t nearly as progressive as everybody on the Internet thinks they are.
Don’t underestimate the efficacy of voter disenfranchisement and disengagement. Republicans don’t need to prop up Trump. People who loath him will vote for him simply due to party loyalty. Discrediting Biden is all it takes for a win.
So everybody has to vote for someone they hate otherwise the other guy they hate will be in power.
Great democracy everybody. Glad the wrong lizard didn’t win.
I’m not defending the system. I’m suggesting we use it until we have a better option.
Whether you realize it or not, comments like that drive disengagement. It imparts hopelessness, which leads some to apathy.
Which makes sense because I’m definitely hopeless
That’s fair. Try not to advocate hopelessness. It just hurts others.
You’re right. It’s important to keep negative feelings to yourself. Cram them right down in the pit of your stomach and then smile and say “Yeah, this is exactly the sort of government I want and if you have a problem with it then you’re a bad person.”
You don’t need to play martyr. Get some help if you really want to address it. Trying to convince others to feel hopeless along with you won’t make you feel any better, and it can hurt others in the process.
Making people hopeful only to have their hopes crushed in the next election is a great way to get them to give up on voting
Voting should be emotionless. It’s a civic responsibility to make a logical decision to benefit yourself and those you care about. Vote for whomever will do that more. Don’t expect perfect representation at that level of government.
Which is exactly what I’ve been saying this entire time: Vote, but don’t expect it to help.
The strategy of telling voters that they can vote for change is what’s caused Millennials and Gen Z to check out. Don’t tell people our government is responsive or effective, because it isn’t and then they’ll get the wrong idea about how government actually works. Don’t tell them they can vote for Hope & Change, because those aren’t things our government provides.
It’s like you’re stuck in the water with a riptide pushing you away from shore. A really strong swimmer would just swim against it, but you’re not, so you swim parallel to shore because then later you can swim back in. At least it’s not pushing you further out.
Nope.
Just decide to quit and drown. This is what the young “I’ll show you by not participating” crowd sounds like to me.
I’ve been swimming sideways to get out of the riptide for 24 years now. When do I get to start swimming back to shore?
Does drowning have any chance of ever getting you back?
Does swimming parallel to the shore have a chance of ever getting me back?
It doesn’t necessarily mean getting pushed further out.
It can always get worse.
That’s the neat part: It always gets worse.
Well, yes. That’s the thing: If you give up, you drown, if you keep going parallel, you never know when the tide might turn. If you’re 24 (that’s how I interpret your previous comment), you’ve only had the option of voting in one presidential election so far. In that election, progressives completed the monumental task of voting out an incumbent proto-facist. And for all of Bidens flaws, there can’t be much doubt that a lot has been heading in the right direction. Of course, there’s still a huge task ahead, but the previous election shows that Trump can be kept out of office, and the past three years show that things can get better.
Step 1: Forgiving student loans, Step 2: Working to reform the system.
Step 1: Pardon certain drug-related crimes, Step 2: Work to reform drug laws.
Step 1: Massive infrastructure investments, Step 2: More investment in public goods
Step 1: EO’s to protect reproductive rights, Step 2: Legislation to do the same.
My point is this: Biden has shown that he is working to make progress, and that he can actually get stuff done. The problem is that there’s a whole lot that needs doing, much more than anyone can do in two terms. We need to keep getting the best option into office, and we need to spend the next four years to ensure that the best option next time is better than Biden is now. If Trump gets four years, I fear that we’ll have a near impossible job.
This is my sixth presidential election.
I"m old enough to know this post is writing a check our government can’t cash. It’s too broken.
It’s broken because of GOP and you’re willing to give GOP more power to break it further
Calm your tits. I’ve been voting D like a good little neoliberal since 2000.
I don’t need to give them more power. They’ve already elected two presidents without the popular vote, hold most of the Senate because it gives land more power than people, and the House because we haven’t fixed representation in the House. Not to mention the fuckery in every single one of the states they can pull off.
The fact that Republicans are able to do that sort of shit is why it’s broken. They’re not the problem, they’re a symptom of people playing game with broken mechanics.
No it’s obviously only progressives fault dems keep only doing conservative like policies
Because they’re not rolling it up fast enough! Can’t you see? They just have to roll it faster and preferably all the way and then I’ll get excited and help. Yup. Don’t forget until then it’s all your fault too.
It is our fault that we aren’t organized enought. Empowering other progressives enough.
Chips act, IRA, union empowerment, student debt, marijuana reform, etc etc etc. Anyone that says Biden isn’t doing anything is wilfully ignorant.
Isn’t. Doing. Enough.
Bernie is going to die one day. Who will take in what he started?
AOC is just going to do it all herself. Great. Love her though.
Antiestablishmentarianism is a lonely road.
All you’re doing is exactly what the parent comment described.
Flying SquidThis is why Trump’s “dictator on day one” comment isn’t taken with the seriousness it needs to be.
People already think presidents are dictators.
Couldn’t agree more. There’s a huge misunderstanding that the President is the most important facet of government, but the Executive has remarkably little ability to influence the law aside from directing the various agencies on how they should operate and utilizing the power of veto to check the legislative.
Trump won’t be a dictator on day one because that’s not how the office of President works. He will be, though, if Project 2025 is allowed to be implemented and they get rid of all the barriers to him having unilateral unchecked authority. This is also predicated on the possibility that he will not be held accountable by the courts and the Supreme Court rules that he can commit crimes and label them as “official acts”.
The big misunderstanding is that people think Trump alone can fulfill all of his campaign promises and Biden simply won’t, when the reality is that Biden can’t do it alone and neither can Trump (yet).
Is actively being thwarted by Republicans at every turn.
Plus, things take time to happen, even under ideal circumstances.
That’s fine. Go back to my OP, not organized enough, not supporting progressives enough. We don’t need a majority we need a super majority. You know, an impossible task.
Marijuana is still illegal federally. Schedule 3 is not legalization.
Forgiving student debt is not reform. A kid going to college today will still need to take on a ridiculous debt load and play the job/forgiveness lottery.
Biden very publicly told Unions where to stick it.
The green event stuff he funded is great but it’s not novel and he used it as a cover to protect the Big 3 Auto manufacturers from foreign EVs.
The CHIPs act is actually okay. 1 out of 5 things but being performative is good though right? That’s the standard?
Your crying that it’s not legal yet. Let’s forget that he asked dea to look at rescheduling it and that he furnace federal possession convictions.
You’re crying he only did what he could and forgave debt and hasn’t gotten around to a Herculean overhaul of the entire post secondary system.
Youdidn’t see the follow-up with unions. I’d give the Beau if the fifth column video but their impossible to find.
You’re crying not novel enough. And I’m going to the forget the green energy stuff in the IRA.
You’re crying chips belong only decent?
Do you hear yourself? That was the easy stuff off the top of my head, and it’s just crying that nothing is ever good enough. Crying that it’s not fast enough. Nevermind that he’s been kneecapped with no majority in the house. Willfully blind.
That was the DEA looking at it. It went from schedule 1 to schedule 3. Which is a year in prison and a fine for possession.
I’m not against him doing harm reduction, but call it what it is. Don’t forgive debt and sell it as a reform. Winning the presidential lottery is not a reform.
The follow up? Where railroad workers are still under manned and required to work sick? Oh I’m sorry we got some real reforms for the IT guys in railroading. But the guys on the tracks, who were getting abused before are still getting abused in the exact same ways.
Green energy generation is solved. It’s already cheaper to build, maintain, and use than fossil fuels. Many states already routinely hit 100% renewable energy on their grid. So much so that the business crowd is trying to get home solar financial benefits reduced because the market is saturated.
This isn’t “nothing is good enough” it’s stop doing merely performative shit and blowing smoke up my ass. I gave him credit for CHIPs, but the IRA was just a corporate grift wrapped in green paper.
Yes, that was the DEA being told by Biden to look at it.
You’re back to crying about “only” forgiving some debt. And you’re back to crying about not doing a Herculean task of completely overhauling post secondary in 2 years. Whose selling it as reform? Nobody. You’re making shit up just to cry about now.
The rail union got to negotiate. Whatever they got, they negotiate for themselves. You’re crying again that Biden didn’t do _______. It’s not even his place to negotiate or dictate what happens, but you’re crying about it.
Green energy generation still needed (needs?) a boot in the ass, which is exactly what IRA did. But you can’t cry about this one, so no credit to Biden! Oh wait there’s the crying about IRA. Seriously?
All you’re doing is crying about things not happening at warp speed. And then ignoring the things that do happen. Do you even hear yourself? You are exactly what the top comment are about.
What this comes down to: If you don’t vote, then you can’t complain or cry. Do you vote? Good. But I’ll say that your crying is largely inaccurate. Do you not vote? Then it’s bizarre and pathetic that you are crying while you are the one that is actively kneecapping progress.
Again. Hoping the president pardons you is not fucking reform.
And yeah we’ve known student debt was a problem for a decade. He knows he has four years in a term. Nobody wanting to reform things starts on January 20th. They start making plans years in advance or subscribe to think tank plans. Saying he’s only had his entire term is a bullshit excuse. That’s when shit gets done. He hasn’t got the job done. And that wouldn’t even be a big problem if he weren’t trying to tell people he did get the job done.
The rail union didn’t get to negotiate.b that was the entire reason they were going on strike. Biden forced them to take the company’s offer. That’s what breaking the strike does. At this point you’re straight up lying.
Oh so corporate grift wrapped in a green paper sounds like it’s not a complaint to you? He set EVs back 10 years.
I’m not complaining that things aren’t happening day enough. I’m complaining that you’re lying about what he’s done. I’m complaining that he lies about his accomplishments and then wonders why people don’t just fawn over him.
And you’re still crying that it’s not fast enough. Someone said it has to be reclassified first before either decriminalization or legalization (no idea if accurate). But you just want to cry that the boulder isn’t being pushed up the hill fast enough. And crying over what he could and did do. Not to mention that he can’t do it - Congress passes legislation, not the President. He did what he could which is tell DEA to look at it.
Still crying over not doing Herculean overhaul in TWO years. Because you need Congress. Congress is the one that could do massive reform, not the president. You don’t even know how your own government works and yet you want to cry. This is some serious “I’m 14 and don’t know how things work, but I’m going to cry about Biden bad” from you. That’s twice that you don’t even know how your government works. You can’t make this up.
Dude you can negotiate without a strike. This is more “14 and don’t know how things work”. Here I looked it up for you youtu.be/EM6jMtG_MB8 Also pay attention to how a rail strike would have ground the US economy to a halt. But don’t get the wrong idea, it was about Biden’s success pushing on the negotiations. You should watch him regularly. I’m pretty sure there’s another one with even more rail union wins but he often has shitty titles. Don’t forget to cry though.
And more crying about green power generation. You want to set up a domestic industry, green power is not one and done. You can do way more when your country’s money feeds back into itself. For both generation and EVs. This is more 14 and have no idea how industry or long term industry works. But you just want to cry about not fast enough.
You dropped the chips stuff too.
I thought this before, but your reply here showed it full tilt. You have some serious “I’m 14 and don’t know how anything works” vibes. You are the epitome of what was said at the start:
Good news! Apparently a lot of excitingly new young progressives are mad we haven’t rolled it back up high enough and are refusing to help!
Wait. Okay, not good news. Sorry.
And
Because they’re not rolling it up fast enough! Can’t you see? They just have to roll it faster and preferably all the way and then I’ll get excited and help. Yup. Until then I’ll be adding ankle weights to you too. And don’t forget it’s all your fault too.
I notice you didn’t respond about voting either.
No matter what I say you’ll cry about something when you don’t even know how things work, so Ciao.