@cory whoaaa this is amazing they nailed it, I hate it hahaha
@jake4480 it’s basically the whole internet now and I hate it hahaha
@cory I mean, not a single part of this site is even slightly an exaggeration. And that's pretty messed up haha
@jake4480 haha yeah, it's all totally accurate and yet it feels like it's just going to get worse.
@cory I can't imagine it, but yes. Tech will find a way 😂

@jake4480 @cory I like to think a tipping point is coming.

The original, clean, simple, performant Google came about because of the bloat and ads and faff that was involved in using altavista, Lycos, yahoo etc... Something will upend it.

@sarajw @jake4480 I sure hope so. It feels like we passed what I could tolerate a long time ago. Now everything has a chatbot too, but I'm hoping the energy and data costs pop that bubble sooner than later.
@sarajw @cory one thing I think will upend it is just, people not going to mainstream sites as much. Eventually. It'll all revert back to things like this, interconnected communities this or that way, and stuff people put into archive.is to save and kill the ads. Firefox already kills so much, the pages take SO long to load because of it though, I've noticed.
@jake4480 @sarajw yeah — my brother sends me NBA related videos from Instagram all the time and it's *amazing* how slow it is to load and how frequently the page just breaks and fails to load altogether.
@cory @sarajw ha! Amazing you can even see those. For MY begrudging daily use of Instagram, I have to use sideloaded APK Instander on my S21. The ads on Insta.. it's like, between every post now. It's bonkers. hahaha. Instander kills all the ads and at least makes it usable.
@jake4480 @sarajw I'm honestly surprised they load as well as they do — Stop the Madness even swaps their video player nonsense for iOS' native one.
@cory @sarajw even regular news/article sites and such, they just sit and load and I imagine all the things Firefox is killing as I wait hahaha

@jake4480 @sarajw @cory The weird thing is that people are willing to put up with a *lot* of abuse if it means getting content they want. I think the real tipping point comes when Stop the Madness-type blockers start becoming OS-level features that are on by default.

Like—my parents don't know how to install adblocking plugins, but they absolutely appreciate having them.

When sites that rely on this trash have to either find ethical sources of income or fail, that's when we'll see change.

@csilverman @jake4480 @sarajw it's awful and I wonder how much of it is simply not knowing adblockers and such are an option. My parents have them installed and I've got nextDNS running on their home network but, to your point, it’ll have the greatest impact if and when it becomes a default.