Hard to imagine a signal that a website is a rugpull more intense than banning users for trying to delete their own posts

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/stack-overflow-bans-users-en-masse-for-rebelling-against-openai-partnership-users-banned-for-deleting-answers-to-prevent-them-being-used-to-train-chatgpt

Like just incredible "burning the future to power the present" energy here

Stack Overflow bans users en masse for rebelling against OpenAI partnership — users banned for deleting answers to prevent them being used to train ChatGPT

Stack Overflow is overflowing with salt.

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@mcc

I have dealt with novice coders for 40 years. I've told them to steer clear of SO - ask me if you've got a question about anything.

#StuckOverflow isn't entirely bad, but there's enough rat shit stirred into that pudding I would never trust anything trained on its data.

@tuban_muzuru I like Stack Overflow, but the problem with it is that it's so old that many of the questions are from like 2008-2015 and that means that often it gives you an answer that was correct ten years ago but is wrong now. (Sometimes they exacerbate this by closing a new question because it's a duplicate of a 2010 one full of outdated answers!)

So… the new "don't forget, you're here forever" policies will probably exacerbate this problem, if fewer high-quality answers come in after 2024.

@mcc @tuban_muzuru I was pondering the world after the demise of Stack Overflow and while I have depended heavily on it's use in my career as a professional programmer, I think the real problem is that we need it at all. The modern condition of programming being mostly copy-pasting Stack Overflow answers is a symptom of a much greater problem. Programming is too complicated because we have made it too complicated, we should all work together to make it easier instead. That's my opinion, anyway!

@brandon @mcc

After a while, patterns are seen, problems revisited, writing a program to spec - the problem isn't complication, often.

When you run across what you think is a needlessly complex solution - you are looking at a compromise. Comment it and ride it through the debugger - but don't rewrite it immediately ....