jimmydoreisaleftyApr 28, 2024

“Democracy is on the ballot”

https://lemmy.world/post/14778663

“Democracy is on the ballot” - Lemmy.World

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/14778555 [https://lemmy.world/post/14778555] > @MaxBlumenthal > > >“Democracy is on the ballot” > — > @DrJillStein > > >BREAKING: Jill Stein and her Campaign Manager and Deputy Campaign Manager, Jason Call and Kelly Merrill-Cayer, have been arrested at Washington University in St. Louis while supporting a protest against WashU’s ties to the war on Gaza. > Video from @KallieECox > > — > > Direct video link: https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1784410882627227648/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/0RbEXrPU8hvKoqwU.mp4 [https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1784410882627227648/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/0RbEXrPU8hvKoqwU.mp4] > > Source: https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1784440127734812900 [https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1784440127734812900]

Show threadLizApr 29, 2024

Excuse me, OP. Please provide a presidential voting strategy that you would like me to employ with the goal of maximizing positive impact. That’s generally my goal. I try to things that will have a positive impact on society. Please note that ineffective actions don’t have any impact, by definition.

I ask for a voting strategy because you seem to be drawing a line connecting a phrase used to argue in favor of voting for Joe Biden for president (over Trump) with an incident that has recently happened in St. Louis. Presumably you think this incident is bad (on the surface I think it is, too) and would like for things to improve. Presumably you also think Biden is in favor of the outcome with this incident. Do you think Trump would be against this outcome?

There are, of course, other ways to deal with the negative incident that don’t center around your individual vote for president, but you seem to be suggesting that the two are directly connected, which is why I asked my question.

Show threadjordanlundApr 29, 2024

Goal of maximizing positive impact?

Vote Biden.

There are two viable candidates, Biden and Trump. Taking votes away from Biden only helps Trump. So not voting, voting Stein, Kennedy, West, all of that only helps Trump.

Helping Trump is supporting:

  • A wanna be dictator:

    • apnews.com/…/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian…

  • Project 2025:

    • en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

  • War with Mexico:

    • rollingstone.com/…/donald-trump-mexico-military-c…

  • Soviet style imprisoning of political enemies:

    • theguardian.com/…/trump-interview-jail-political-…

  • Wiping out Gaza “fast”:

    • apnews.com/…/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21…

  • Surrendering Ukraine to Russia:

    • visitukraine.today/…/trumps-peace-plan-is-to-surr…

  • Abandoning allies in Europe:

    • apnews.com/…/trump-nato-presidential-election-con…

    So, yeah, when the alternative is maximizing negative impact, the only voting solution is to vote for the one person who can defeat that agenda… and that’s Biden.

    Trump's vow to only be a dictator on his first day back in office

    Donald Trump's assertion that he would only be a dictator on “day one” of a second term comes as he is facing growing scrutiny over his increasingly authoritarian and violent rhetoric. The consequences of that rhetoric were made clear following the deadly storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and after he tried to remain in power despite losing his 2020 reelection bid. The former president is now vowing vengeance and retribution as he runs again. He is outlining a second-term agenda marked by an unprecedented expansion of executive power and interference in the justice system, along with a massive civil service purge.

    AP News
    Show threadAlDenteApr 29, 2024

    Why do you claim that is unidirectional? Why not:

    “There are two viable candidates, Biden and Trump. Taking votes away from Trump only helps Biden. So not voting, voting Stein, Kennedy, West, all of that only helps Biden.”

    Show threadjimmydoreisaleftyMay 4, 2024

    Great point by reversing it!

    Thanks for sharing!

    Show threadAlDente
    You too bud. 😘
    May 4, 2024 at 6:27pmWeb