A conversation with my wife

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A conversation with my wife - Lemmy.World

Religious mutilation: Not even once.
I had medical mutilation. I lost a lot of sensitivity down there. But it allows it to work and wife has been supportive in a country where it’s a rare thing.
You weren’t a baby?
Nope… In adulthood.

WOW. I can’t imagine the fear.

I also feel like it’s impossible to learn about the lost sensitivity: in the half dozen posts I have seen over the years about non-babies being circumcised, they say the sensitivity lost isn’t as much as we circumcised suspect it was. I’m not doubting you. I just wish I knew what the proper amount of resentment about my parents having chosen this is.

I can tell you. It is a lot.

But it’s not life altering and I do prefer it in a way, I’m not having issues finishing or anything like that. I had it done at a private hospital so it was done esthetically well. Very little scar tissue etc. But I wouldn’t make my son have one, that’s crazy. It happened and I had little choice in the matter. But it was conscious, body autonomy is important.

I don’t think anyone is arguing against it being done for medical reasons and especially on someone willing.
But I feel like I’m a rare breed of someone experiencing it and having years with “both” types. There’s a lot of curiosity from both camps because realistically, there’s little chance of anyone ever finding out which one is “better”. Honestly, both have pros and cons. I hope my comment puts people a bit at ease for having it forced upon them when they couldn’t say no and those who still can choose, don’t feel pressured into it or mislead by misinformation.
Neither of my parents are or were religious, yet I have a scar there (not hyperbole, actually hurts if touched too much). I don’t know if foreskin is useful for anything in GRS, but if it is I’m gonna be pissed I don’t have any.

Bad news girlfriend, it is useful. The more you have to work with, the better.

I too am pissed.

I already have less to work with than average 😭
Its not a death sentence though. Surgeons are quite adept these days.
Yep. If an adult wants to do it, then it’s nobody else’s business. But parents shouldn’t be allowed to make a decision like that. An infant can’t be religious.
Actually when you are circumcised you can feel that you are going to come, I mean I know for sure because I am. But it’s still a lot of fun xD
I am pretty sure you can feel when you are about to cum regardless of circumcision status. That’s just how dicks Work. Ya know
Can confirm lol
Or more precisely, how prostates work.
Same reason you can feel when you need to pee. It’s not the dick itself that actually controls the fluids.
So tye Pee Fairy is a lie?
Well it is the pee fairy that decides when enough pee is stored inside your balls and when to release it.
really? thanks for telling me, if it wasn’t for you i would have never found out. thanks man, thanks for existing
Possibly the only thing you can still feel after the forced mutilation. I am sorry for everyone that has been abused like that, a barbaric practice that makes zero sense to be done in the west…
I didn’t read what you wrote so thank you for not being an asshole (?) however others have been much more than you so relax, and I also miss the point of this whole thing. What bullshit lol

Just added a downvote because there were already 145 (wtf?) and I wanted to be part of it! Highest number I’ve seen here so far, congrats!

I wonder how many others just thought it’s fun to jump on the downvote train. Nothing personal and there are worse things to worry about than a random count on a random website

This really made me laugh. Yes, I know. You make my day, thank you!
Is this satire?
probably just an 8/o on the internet.
but why should I be an 8 year old excuses? what nonsense
But why is it supposed to be satire sorry?

You actually don’t seem to know (which surprised me), so I will tell you. I’m from Brazil, almost nobody here is circumcised. I can say for sure, everybody, circumcised or not, can feel they’re about to cum, that has nothing to do with having or not foreskin.

There are people who report that being circumcised makes you a bit less sensitive so you last longer. I cannot confirm or deny that, although it makes sense. But feeling your about to cum is not an ability you unlock for being circumcised.

You said in the edit that you don’t understand why you got so much push back. You got it because your comment is very confident in an absolutely wrong fact, that shows a very strong lack of understanding of other people

You actually don’t seem to know (which surprised me), so I will tell you. I’m from Brazil, almost nobody here is circumcised. I can say for sure, everybody, circumcised or not, can feel they’re about to cum, that has nothing to do with having or not foreskin.

There are people who report that being circumcised makes you a bit less sensitive so you last longer. I cannot confirm or deny that, although it makes sense. But feeling your about to cum is not an ability you unlock for being circumcised.

But I already knew this. What are we kidding

You got it because your comment is very confident in an absolutely wrong fact, that shows a very strong lack of understanding of other people.

There must have been a big misunderstanding. I certainly wasn’t bragging about being circumcised, but come on.

But I already knew this

I certainly wasn’t bragging about being circumcised

Actually when you are circumcised you can feel that you are going to come, I mean I know for sure because I am. But it’s still a lot of fun xD

If you already knew, you weren’t bragging, and it was not satire, then what did it supposed to mean?

I honestly thought that whoever made the meme was trying to allude to the fact that those who are circumcised cannot feel when they are about to come, which is why I said it
Fun fact, you can feel it when you’re uncut too. At least, my spouse has never not been able to warn me over 14 years together, so, that doesn’t seem like a good reason to mutilate kids’ dicks.
well sure it’s as you say. i’m just saying that. then as for me i was circumcised for medical reasons (i was pissing myself from all over) so i don’t really understand the point of your sentence honestly

Have you ever tried just pulling it back a little bit before you pee?

Thats what I do when its cold outside and I want to pee, but not on me.

Nope, I always pee on myself. It’s like a kink now.

It’s actually the other way around, the orgasm-sensor is actually located in the foreskin

that’s where it gets the name, foresight-giving skin

okay I said it because it was supposed in the meme but it’s all the same
I really wish my parents would have asked me before doing that.

I’m sorry it’s legally allowed to mutilate baby’s sex organs. It’s honestly fucking disgusting, and tragic that you are one of the many victims.

In a couple decades circumcision will likely be looked back on as one of the many barbaric practices that was common in the past.

In the US? The same country that just overturned Roe v Wade? Yeah, somehow I have my doubts they will rid themselves of the archaic genital mutilation. I would like to believe people in 2024 are also smart enough not to crop a dog’a ears or dock its tail or hell, breed the abominations like pugs and french bulldogs. But that is not the world we live in. The world we do live in is filled to the brim with idiots.

I realize that having it done as a newborn I’ll never really know, but mutilated? As an adult iv seen and played with those flesh danglers. Listen we are all humans and beautiful, but fucking hell I’m happy with mine. They are like one of those weird deep sea critters you see on nat geo or sciencememes.

True, if I ever have a baby I’ll make the argument to the mom we SHOULD give the kid the choice… but I know that as a poor adult I would never do it now. But am happy it’s been done.

I hate to sound like a “Liberal” talking about Palestine, but this may be a somewhat nuanced situation.

I’m curious, why are you “happy it’s been done”?

I live in a country where we don’t perform this procedure out of tradition/religion, or at least not in the majority. I’m only aware of it being done for specific medical pathologies such as phimosis.

Because I kind of agree with the sentiment that performing unwarranted surgeries on someone that is unable to voice his (non-)consent is an ethical problem. Even more so with excisions, which always are drastically and usually irrevocably diminishing the body.

I’m glad because I like how it looks and feels. Also, while I understand they are the exception not the rule, I have read about some men’s experience with them (the father of the 7 yr old in this comment thread for example) that make them sound either unconvienent or sometimes unpleasant. Never read anything similar from someone who’s been cut.

And this question isn’t poised at you, but do the people who rail against it think Jewish people should stop the practice as well?

I’ll still use the opportunity to voice my opinion clearly on this: Yes, forced circumcision on infants is only a very small step above the also still common practice of female genetic mutilations at birth/infancy. It does not matter what reasons you claim, only medical necessity should matter. Society should protect its infants from any religion or tradition demanding body modifications of infants.

Leave people’s bodies alone until they can decide on their own what to do when there is zero proven medical benefit to doing it before without their informed consent.

The common “improved hygiene” argument is nonsensical. You know what improves hygiene? Washing, and teaching kids how to wash themselves.

Otherwise you could cut off ears using the same logic. No ears, no need to wash behind the ears.

The definition of mutilate is “inflict a violent and disfiguring injury on.”

Circumcision being the forced removal of the most sensitive part of the males genitals, that literally disfigures it, I feel like saying it’s mutilation is just the correct use of the word.

Disfigure means it’s left worse off. It’s literally more healthy and generally seen as more aesthetically pleasing. So no, that’s not the correct use of the word. That’s like saying cutting an umbilical cord is disfiguring lol.

No it is not considered more healthy, and that may be the general consensus among religious nuts and other men who were multilated and have trouble dealing with that reality, but it is not based in fact when assessing the topic on a global scale.

If you want to talk about healthy I hear that if you remove the penis entirely you can no longer get an STD. Maybe we should start doing that, since obviously it’s more healthy.

An umbilical cord falls off naturally, it is not meant to stay with your body forever. Your foreskin however is the most sensitive part of your penis and is a permanent part of your body, so your comparison against an umbilical cord is unintelligent.

You seem a little emotional so we can’t have an actual discussion, but I suggest you actually look at the studies that objectively prove it’s a health benefit. You won’t actually read them, but that’s what the current science determines. This is like when an anti vaxer gets too emotional when you show them actual objective evidence.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sorry you were multilated bro
As someone who is circumcised and chose not to circumcise their son, I’m seeing that circumcision has a lot of benefits. My son’s foreskin has always been too tight and won’t still fully retract at 7 years old. We have to put cream on it every night. It needs a lot more thorough washing every day or else it gets discharge all over it. The care and maintenance on an uncircumcised penis is like 1000x that of a circumcised one. I never knew any difference, so I’m not sure what the downsides of having a circumcised one is.
Why would it need to retract at 7 years old? It really only needs to retract once you start to have sex.
Pediatricians have timelines for these sort of things. And it can get infected under there.

cleanliness?

You ever eat the gunk under your fingernails? I’m guessing not.

I’m not eating from the tip of my penis.

Phimosis is completely physiological/natural for younger boys and actually helps to protect the head of the penis against infections.

Source

If it needs washing, you can just spray water from the shower head into the opening.

But it’s also kinda like the vagina for girls. It doesn’t really need washing or special treatment unless it’s infected.

In any case, messing with the penis of your son and making them feel unhygienic or like their foreskin is a problem is likely much more damaging than a little bit of smegma.

Phimosis: Learn More – What are the treatment options for phimosis?

Nearly all boys have a naturally tightened foreskin for their first several years of life, which than goes away on its own. Treatment is recommended only if it causes problems or remains that way until the child reaches puberty. Using a steroid cream is often enough. Surgery is only rarely needed.

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