US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana in a historic shift, AP sources say

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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana in a historic shift, AP sources say - Lemmy.World

The DEA’s proposal, which still must be reviewed by the White House Office of Management and Budget, would recognize the medical uses of cannabis and acknowledge it has less potential for abuse than some of the nation’s most dangerous drugs. However, it would not legalize marijuana outright for recreational use.

I am really sorry for those of you who use it recreationally, because it deserves to be legal for you too, but as a medical user in a non-legal state, this is amazing news.

Fucking Biden must be about to unleash some truly heinous shit, if he’s playing this card
Dude, take the win.

I honestly meant that to be a core comment, not a reply to you.

Mea Culpa!

I think he’s just panicking about Trump actually standing a chance and actually doing something to claw back votes.
That’s definitely part of it, but I think this is also about locking in marijuana illegality as long as they possibly can. Schedule I was never going to last, but they’re hoping this will kill the political momentum for just descheduling it altogether so cops can keep using it as an excuse to harass people they don’t like.
I’m reminded of how Democrats said they would keep fighting for the public option and then didn’t.
He started this process in 2022.
Then I withdraw my statement until I have time to determine the truth of what you say
But but but but but Biden bad!1!1!1!
What do you mean? This has been in process for over a year now. Unless you think Biden is a chess grandmaster of timing things out.

Nah, i may have just been wrong.

He’s done so much nasty shit lately, I just threw it in the pile.

Ha!! I was fucking right! A mouthpiece for your orange man-god. How many nfts did you buy from trump? How many bibles? Does he say things that make you feel seen? Hahah! Fucking bootlicker!

I am really sorry for those of you who use it recreationally, because it deserves to be legal for you too, but as a medical user in a non-legal state, this is amazing news.

One step closer, IMO id rather medical people get it first ASAP anyways. Us recreational users have fun with it and it’s far better than say alcohol for a good time, but at the end of the day I don’t need it.

I don’t need it

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I think someone said the whatever agency needs to reclassify it before legalization can happen. Ihave no idea why or how it works. But this could be the start of legalization from Congress.
Congrats to you!! Hopefully your ability to get ur medicine becomes easier/safer, but either way at least itll be legal for u!

which still must be reviewed by the White House Office of Management and Budget

sigh So it hasn’t actually been rescheduled yet.

What’s that saying? A high tide raises all boats. This is good for everyone.

tl;dr: DEA moving cannabis, ketamine, and some other stuff to schedule III; first it goes to OMB for approval, then they have a comment period, then they issue their final ruling.

Better a couple decades late than never, I suppose, but they should really just take it off entirely. Psilocybin too.

The idea that something you can just grow yourself like a plant of a fungus is illegal is ridiculous on the face of it.
Yeah. It doesn’t make a whole lotta sense does it? lol
What about Japanese barberry?
Sorry, I have no idea what that is.
Apparently an invasive species that affects soil PH, not many animals eat it, it attracts ticks, etc

Invasive species are covered by an entirely different set of laws and agency of enforcement.

I’m ok with putting jurisdiction over all drugs under the DNR.

I realize the post is about controlled substances, but the comment thread started with

The idea that something you can just grow yourself like a plant of a fungus is illegal is ridiculous on the face of it.

The idea that not being able to grow any plant you want is ridiculous is not well thought out. Something being natural doesn't mean it should be available to anyone.

I genuinely think the only legal restriction on growing plants should be if there is credible evidence that it harms the local ecology, and then a ban can be bypassed if the harmful plant is grown in an environment that would prevent that harm (eg in an indoor lab setting where seeds/spores/etc wouldn’t be able to escape).
Yeah. It’s perfectly legal to grow and use your own tobacco plants. It’s only regulated when you want to sell or distribute it.

ketamine

wasn’t ketamine been schedule III already?

Yeah I think they misread that part. Cannabis was moved to schedule 3 which, for example, contains ketamine.
Probably. I was skimming it and couldn’t find any primary source linked in the article.
Good bot! Oh wait. :)

Some critics argue the DEA shouldn’t change course on marijuana, saying rescheduling isn’t necessary and could lead to harmful side effects.

I wonder who those fuckheads are and how much of their portfolio is invested in for profit prisons.

That’s the harmful side effect. They’ll make less money.
Frfr, they always say harmful side effects but never mention side effects for whom lol
Others may be forced to contort their neurons to uncomfortable angles trying to come up with reasons thisd be bad… just think of all those hurted brains!! The humanity!!!
It seems so out of touch when people make these arguments these days as they pretend like marijuana is some mystery drug that’s barely used when in reality it’s already medically legal in 4/5ths of the country and recreationally legal in 1/2 the country.
Our founding fathers grew and used hemp. For decades, the cotton industry was famously the largest lobbying agent against its legalization. It’s gotten a bad rap for centuries.
I thought the decline of hemp production in the 1950s (180 years after the American Revolution) was due to the availability of synthetic fibers. But you're saying it was Big Cotton?
I’ve read articles that state both cotton farmers and DuPont (rayon) were against it. There’s a really interesting paper that was featured on leafly.com on the subject, but I’m not seeing it now.

Our founding fathers grew and used hemp.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

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The only thing that proves those worries wrong is every single place where marijuana has been legalized and regulated has less crime and more taxes collected through regulated legal sales. So, just reality.

Never let reality interfere with your politics.

/s…obvs

And big pharma.
Alcohol sales go down, billionaire investors weep.
While I agree it should be 100% legal across the board someone made a good point. Once it’s rescheduled we could see it be classified at a medicine and ban recreational use then they’ll shoot the price through the roof re-opening the black markets. It’s worth treading carefully while we learn future plans that aren’t being spoken of loudly enough.
The thing is, if it gets rescheduled it will be entirely up to the states to handle growing the plant. I fully expect places like Wyoming to continue the draconian laws (like they just did with D8, it’s a felony after June 1st, farm act be damned) but most places will just regulate based on their current laws. What worries me is the ATF being assigned as the federal regulatory body, but that would only happen with it being a taxable, saleable, product. I don’t forsee big pharma being able to do much with rescheduling, it’s too easy to grow.
Holy hell, conservatives are such gigantic pieces of shit. Fuck red states, their beauty is absolutely destroyed by these anti-freedom cretins.
Yeah, red states are holding this nation back in a huge number of ways. Wyoming still publicly defends racism and hate speech under the guise of “free speech”. Check out the statements made by the University of Wyoming regarding a guy that comes onto campus specifically to harass and spew hate at transgender people this year. The college not only gives him his own table in the student Union, they encourage him to harass people. It sparked entire groups of people to literally scream racism and hate speech at people all over town because “muh freedoms”. It’s bad. Being a minority in this state is legit scary.

Some critics argue the DEA shouldn’t change course on marijuana, saying rescheduling isn’t necessary and could lead to harmful side effects.

I wonder who those fuckheads are

duckduckgo.com/?&q=police+no+longer+allowed+to+us…

Search link not because I’m being a smartass, but because there are so many articles with the same context in different parts of the country.

Womp womp. Sorry you’ll have to give up your second favorite pretext, cops.

police no longer allowed to use smell of marijuana for probable cause at DuckDuckGo

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If Alcohol isn’t scheduled, why is marijuana?
Because they used it as a tool to hunt down and arrest civil rights groups and Vietnam protestors.

The down voter should read Nixon quotes

“I want a goddam strong statement… one that just tears the ass out of” cannabis supporters.

Marijuana's a black person drug. If you didn't know, the US kinda hates black people, statistically speaking. It's pretty fucked up!

According to the available information, there is no direct mention of the percentage of black people who used marijuana in the 1960s and 1970s. However, we can infer some information from the provided snippets.
In the 1970s, marijuana use became more widespread among the general population. According to Gallup’s trend by age, widespread experimentation with marijuana first occurred among adults aged 18 to 29 between 1969 and 1973, rising from 8% to 35%. It then continued to mount, reaching 56% by 1977, and remained at that level in 1985.
It is important to note that the available information does not provide specific data on the percentage of black people who used marijuana during this time period. However, we can infer that marijuana use was more prevalent among younger adults, particularly those in the 18-29 age range, during the 1970s.
In terms of the potency of marijuana during this time period, reports suggest that pot in the 1970s had THC levels of around 1%. In contrast, today, the herb you’re smoking has a lot more THC, with levels averaging more than 6-8%. Some specially grown plants can contain THC levels as high as 51%.
It is also worth noting that a 2022 analysis of marijuana possession arrests in Texas for the years 2017 to 2019 reported that African Americans comprised 30.2 percent of all possession arrests, yet Black people comprised only 12.9 percent of the state’s population. This suggests that there may be racial disparities in marijuana use and arrest rates, but the available information does not provide specific data on the percentage of black people who used marijuana in the 1960s and 1970s.

Marijuana was considered a black person drug. If you didn’t know, the US kinda hates black people, statistically speaking. It’s pretty fucked up!

John Ehrlichman, Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs under President Richard Nixon said the following:

“You want to know what this [war on drugs] was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying?

“We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news.”

"Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

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