Looks like the anti-smartTV alarmism is out in full force today on the feditubes. A reminder: connecting a smartTV to the Internet is perfectly safe as long as you take 2 minutes to follow common sense guidance:

https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smart-tv-snooping-features-a4840102036/

SmartTVs don't collect anymore data than Microsoft Windows, Google, Facebook, Twitter or even your credit card company.

Don't be fooled by the people trying to shame or scare you. And definitely don't get tricked into the magical thinking that streaming with a Roku is somehow safer than with a TV. It's not.

How to Turn Off Smart TV Snooping Features

TVs collect a huge amount of data. Here's how to use privacy settings to limit the surveillance on TVs from LG, Samsung, TCL, and every other big brand.

Consumer Reports

@dangoodin
> SmartTVs don't collect anymore data than Microsoft Windows, Google, Facebook, Twitter or even your credit card company.

Oh yeah as if that were acceptable.

@hueso

Like I keep saying: Either tell people not to use any of these or STHU. It's silly to say don't connect smartTVs to the internet when you're using the rest. I've been saying this the entire thread. How can you not have grasped my point by now?

@dangoodin @hueso Oh thats exactly what I do. Its important to present alternatives to all of these corporate bullshit services. At the same time you have to understand that privacy for most people is about minimizing the amout of data you leak with as little invasiveness as possible.

Doing stuff like using fedi instead of twitter, signal instead of messenger, or not connecting your smart tv to internet isnt very invasive for most of us. Using Linux instead of Windows, or degoogling your phone might be more invasive and less people will probably be willing to accept it. And giving up credit card transactions entirely is very invasive, especially if you shop a lot of stuff online.

Saying stuff like "you can't tell people to leak less data by doing X as long as you don't tell them to leak no data by doing Y, Z and etc." is just stupid whataboutism. Especially when there is abundance of content relating to other companies mentioned by you collecting your data and alternatives for them. So people can make a consensual choice on whether they are willing to accept the invasiveness posed by removing these products from their life, or keeping them on their devices, possibly leaking more data.

The situation for smart tvs is a bit different. Lots of people, especially some older folks, perceive them as being the same as being simple "hdmi to light adapters", not really as another computer leaking your data. So information on this field is much more valuable than repeating to people yet another time that Google is collecting their data and that they need to stop using all of these data leaky services.