ZeroCoolBiden slayin' at the 2024 White House Correspondents' Dinner tonight
PapaStevesyHe looks like Odo when he’s been out of his bucket too long.
When a 80 year old makes fun of another 80 year old
Feels like an ad. I love you. Zero, but this feels like an ad.
I have no issue if it is one when it’s true 🤷♂️
jordanlundJost nailed it too:
“The Republican candidate for president owes half a billion in fines for bank fraud and is currently spending his days farting himself awake during a porn star hush money trial, and the race is tied? The candidate who is a famous New York City playboy took abortion rights away, and the guy who’s trying to give you your abortion rights back is an 80-year-old Catholic. How does that make sense?”
And polls show Biden neck and neck with him…
Trump also supports the ethno-nationalist far-right genocide.
The problem you are highlighting is bigger than the presidency.
Not when it comes to his re-election. He’s responsible for how he’s behaving, fullstop.
It is completely impossible to argue with people like you. What solutions do you propose ?
JoeBigelowThat’s a silly question
The solution has already been outlined explicitly for Biden. Outlined, circled, highlighted and underlined in red.
Now it’s up to him since he’s the only one with the power to actually implementbthat solution.
Maybe I missed the memo. What’s your solution?
alcohol.
Whatever Putin tells him to say
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what we like to call a “non-answer”. If you look closely you can see that the poster is obviously full of shit, doesn’t actually have a position or isn’t cognitively capable of producing one, so he says nothing of value and expects everyone else to fill in the gaps.
It’s not a non-answer. People have been very, very clear about the solution; stop aid to the genocidal regime of Israel. That’s what the protests are about, that’s what the Uncomitted vote is communicating; the solution for Biden.
Is that clear enough for you? Any more dishonest rhetoric to try out?
gmtomI wish I was dumb enough to think global politics was this simple
I wish I was ignorant enough to not know that US administrations have used witholding aid to curb Israel in the past. Or that the president has the ability to veto aid.
And no one is saying withholding aid is physically impossible. Just the politics around doing so aren’t so simple.
Stop approving weapons deliveries to Isreal.
It’s surprisingly simple actually.
nullOkay, I stopped approving them. Now what?
Lmao, I would assume you’re making a joke, but honestly, there are enough people here dumb enough to make that statement unironically, so I’ll clarify for you:
Biden can stop approving weapon deliveries. He can just stop sending weapons.
How do I make him do that?
Well certainly not by campaigning for him.
Okay, that’s what not to do. But that wasn’t the question.
Can you answer the question?
Lmao i didnt realize you were also an anti-electoral agitator. Carry on comrade.
You could campaign against his policies and push him to fix his shit, maybe. I’m not an expert but I didn’t think loudly pronouncing fealty to his reelection was a part of activism.
Okay, so we do that right up until election day, but he doesn’t stop. What’s the move?
You think the protest stops once the election happens…?
Of course not. But how do we vote?
If the objective hasn’t been met, then it doesn’t matter, vote how you want. The protest goes on, and is now significantly more challenging since the target of the protest has gotten what they wanted without you.
Civil disobedience and broad economic obstruction become the only tools to keep the pressure up. That’s why you should be pushing for the change before the election. Instead, dipshit liberals are determined to give the game away because (spoiler) they don’t actually care about the issue.
So you’re saying that putting up that fight under Biden or Trump – no difference.
The political climate would be more or less identical, and those big problems would be equally easy to solve under either administration?
Frankly - no, not really. Anti zionist protestors are being arrested for demonstrating now, he’s expanding the surveillance state now, he’s deporting immigrants now.
Even his supposed support for LGTBQ rights and abortion doesn’t mean shit when he just sits and watches while states encroach on those freedoms and persecute the most vulnerable. He’s a fucking Catholic, of course he doesn’t give a shit.
Biden is just a more pleasant fascist, but he’s still a fascist.
Project 2025 thanks you for your efforts.
Fuck you too, bud.
Insert “Everybody I don’t like is Hitler” here.
Wait so are you saying protest is more difficult under Biden than it would be under trump?
I’m not convinced it’s any easier.
You do know that if you were to live in Russia, you’d be killed for supporting LGBTQ+ right?
Why are you simping for them?
If you actually believe that, no amount of voting will save you from it.
How does that change anything? Say we did. Now isreal is pissed at us and they’re getting weapons and shit from someone worse. If you think us cutting them off will stop a single thing even for a second, you are a fool.
Here’s a bit of unrelated reading.
Have a fucking backbone, Jesus christ.
Jesus Christ, you just don’t get it do you? You a bot or troll?
I guess I just don’t understand the ‘if we don’t supply the tools of genocide, someone else will’ logic.
I don’t see that as a negative thing, at least I wouldn’t be paying for and aiding a genocide
Even if it was true that someone else would supply the weapons to the genocidal maniacs in Israel if the US did not, that doesn’t excuse Americans committing the crime of arming the fascists in Israel themselves 🙄
You are looking at it with blinders then.
Lol, alright buddy, if you say so.
EldritchThey’re accelerationists. Debating or arguing with them in any fashion is a waste of time. They have no solution or better ideas. They don’t care how many people are being or will be killed. They just want collapse.
They will squeal screech and virtue signal without end. Never once have a thought or suggestion of any value. Because their ideology and philosophy is so shit that they can’t convince anyone else to embrace it without having the threat of death and apocalypse upon them. And I say this as someone generally pragmatically socialist libertarian/anarchist. Who would agree with much they pretend to support.
Gatsbybehaviour.
Interesting…
If there are only 2 sides, and both support a specific notion, then that notion is useless in determining who to vote for.
Not if you’re considering future behavior of the democratic party (and your own conscience, obviously).
Your lesser of evils politics have put us in this position. It’s time to acknowledge that those politics are an abject failure that have done nothing to stem the tide of fascism, but have in fact helped usher it along at every step.
You need to sit down, your bullshit has inflicted irreparable damage and you should not still be acting like you have some kind of way out.
Flying SquidWhat makes you think there will be a Democratic party if the “dictator on day one” gets into office?
Guess it depends on how the house and senate go.
Oh, well nothing to worry about then. It’s only maybe going to be a dictatorship in January of 2025.
There’s a lot to worry about, what are you talking about? Our democracy is in ruins and people are trying to avoid acknowledging the scale of the crisis.
If there’s a lot to worry about on that front, maybe the future of the Democratic party shouldn’t be priority number one when it comes to voting.
The Democratic party does represent the only lawful potential avenue out from under fascism, but rewarding them for participating in genocide only incentivizes them to keep pushing to the right which means that avenue is closer to closing with every corporate right-wing democratic victory.
They’ve become close to industinguishable from Republicans as it is, allowing them to go any further to the right wothout consequences means the door soon gets close permanently and the only option left is the worst one.
Our government has consistently moved to the right, regardless of party, for the past 40 years because democratic voters refuse to take a long view, instead getting stuck in the fear storred up each election cycle. Which is why the Democratic leadership have adopted this insane strategy of propping up lunatics as their opponents; the dem base has demonstrated to them that when the Democratic establishment plays chicken they win every time.
You keep playing that game, fascism is inevitable. Only thin chance is holding Democrats accountable in the only way available to us, the party must be radically reformed or there is no point to any of it.
Nah, it would be Trump’s and idiots who got him elected by voting for him or not voting at all who would take the blame for that.
It is not the voters’ responsibility to make Biden electable. You have it complete backwards.
The choice for Biden is very clear and simple; stop supporting genocide. It’s not some complicated or nuanced thing. It would infact be very easy (and moral) for him to do.
Instead he’s chosen to give the finger to any voter that has a moral compass. So, yeah, we’ll see how his behaviour pays off for him.
It’s the voters responsibility to consider the repercussions of their choice and, unless you’re in a proportional system, to vote strategically to prevent the worst from happening.
We’ve got that in Canada with people voting for Liberals so the Conservatives don’t get in power even though their real allegiance is to the Neo Democrats or the Bloc or the Greens. Now the same thing needs to happen in the USA where Biden might be financing Israel, but the alternative is Trump who will support Israel, stop supporting Ukraine and make women’s, LGBT’s and POC’s lives even worse than they are at the moment.
So please, tell me how not voting for Biden or not voting for Biden isn’t basically the same as voting for Trump and supporting more genocide?
Yes, voters will have to live with the choice they make. Putting their stamp of approval on Democratic complicity in genocide is something a voter would have to live with for the rest of their life. Enabling future democrats to behave in this same way, knowing that it presents no issue for their electability to be pro-genocide, will be something voters will have to live with.