When European settler colonists first encountered the indigenous communities of northeastern North America, many things surprised them about the indigenous communities.

Among these, the Europeans were surprised to discover how restrained and personally responsible the people in these communities were. They very, very rarely engaged in interpersonal violence. They didn’t insult each other; they didn’t lose their tempers around each other.

The Europeans were also surprised to discover that the people in these communities rarely, if ever, disciplined their children. They were, the Europeans believed, impossibly indulgent with their children, allowing them immense personal freedom.

I think it would surprise many contemporary readers that those two things don’t conflict with each other. People living in contemporary state-capitalist modernity tend to assume that children require quite rigid discipline, the routinized order of mass schooling, and fairly constant coercion to keep them out of trouble and turn them into civilized, responsible adults.

It turns out that lots of things we assume to be self-evidently true are not actually true at all.

It’s a baked-in, unquestioned assumption in hegemonic contemporary society that there’s this whole class of people who intrinsically can’t make decisions for themselves and self-evidently must be coercively managed as a result, and meanwhile there are entire societies in which adults don’t even *raise their voices* at children because why would it be ok to shout at people in anger?

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/03/13/685533353/a-playful-way-to-teach-kids-to-control-their-anger

@HeavenlyPossum
I love this and wholeheartedly believe in it. I think similarly about workplace cultures. Arguing and scolding are often considered compatible with professional behaviour, which makes no sense to me at all. I think that if I speak or act in anger, then I've intrinsically failed as a colleague, but in some fields that would be seen as weakness. In fact, anger is so ingrained in our culture that at first, I read your post as sarcastic. (It's not, obvs!)

@MrBehemo
Workplaces with that dynamic are certainly ugly. I consider myself fairly lucky that I've only experienced that once in my life, unsurprisingly when I worked as a retail salesperson. The floor manager thought it was appropriate to literally yell and scream at me in front of a customer for a minor breach of store procedure while I was in the middle of making a large sale. My response of a raised eyebrow and quietly walking away from the situation (to go into the back and immediately clock out early for an extra long lunch) left her standing there in stunned silence and she didn't say a peep to me when I got back.

@HeavenlyPossum