lemmyreaderApr 26, 2024

EU : Our commitment to the fediverse is here to stay.

https://lemmy.ml/post/14930212

EU : Our commitment to the fediverse is here to stay. - Lemmy

EU : > Our commitment to the fediverse is here to stay. > > We are working on a solution to ensure our continued presence on your feeds, taking full advantage of Mastodon’s identity portability. > > And we are even growing the team behind our Mastodon presence, increasing efforts to engage with your comments on our posts. > > We are fully committed to being a real part of the conversation in the fediverse. > > Interested in our next steps? Follow us as we take on this new chapter. /me : 🤔

Show threadfrightful_hobgoblin

The fediverse really needs key-signed messages.

As long as accounts reside on one server it fails to accomplish its goals, IMO

Apr 26, 2024 at 8:41pmWeb
Show threadcheerApr 26, 2024
The Fediverse’s main goal was to be a middle ground between completely centralized and completely decentralized networks, though… So I’d say it has accomplished its goal.
Show threadfrightful_hobgoblinApr 27, 2024

Fair enough if you want to move the goal there it’s a score.

I had thought the goal was to remove central control over communication.

AFAIK, the team never defined an official goal.

Show threadFlaxApr 26, 2024
Elaborate?
Show threadPoplar?Apr 27, 2024

If posts were signed, it wont matter what instance youre posting from since your identity would be tied to your public key and not the account on a Mastodon/lemmy/etc server.

Thats more decentralized. It helps when you get banned, a server shuts down etc.

Show threadkrippixApr 27, 2024
But wouldn‘t the public key need to be somewhere to? At some point down the line you will probably have to trust some server.
Show threadfrightful_hobgoblinApr 27, 2024

It could be shared across instances too. It’s not a hard problem.

Fediverse currently has totally centralised takedowns and bans coz it uses the same account-model as Twitter/Facebook

Show threadExcelApr 28, 2024

No, that’s not how that works.

Users can generate their own keys, and you know it’s the same user as long as they have the same key, even if they’re on different servers.

No certificate authority is required for this kind of use case.

Show threadfrightful_hobgoblinApr 28, 2024
He’s right that the public key would have to be somewhere, maybe on the profile page. The public key would be one more thing to be federated across servers.
Show threadTurunApr 28, 2024
Ok, but if it’s not bound to something like an official domain name how can you be sure the person who signed their posts as president of the EU (or whatever the official title is) to actually be that person is real life?
Show threadqwertyApr 27, 2024
So nostr?
Show threadfrightful_hobgoblinApr 27, 2024
It would be a simple enough feature to code on top of the existing Fediverse
Show threadqwertyApr 27, 2024
Is there any benefit to it over nostr though? You’d have to link your public key to your account(s) and store a backup of your private key in addition to your regular login/password just to get a more fragmented and less seamless version of nostr. A lot of people already have issues figuring out how fediverse works with multiple instances and all… now they’d have multiple accounts with different credentials to keep track of on top of a meta login/password (pub/priv key). With nostr you only have 1 login/password (pub/priv key) to everything, it’s just long and you can’t change it. At least I think that’s how it works, I don’t really use twitter/nostr/mastodon type of sites.
Show threadfrightful_hobgoblinApr 27, 2024

Userbase.

This game is more about mindshare. It’s not about technical capabilities. Facebook are technically dismal.

stats.nostr.band

the-federation.info

Nostr Stats

Show threadasudoxApr 28, 2024
Nostr is crypto bullshit.
Show threadTjaApr 27, 2024
Yes, we need another PGP vs S/MIME flame war, it’s been so long!
Show threadparentesisApr 28, 2024
It’s called self sovereign identity. I’m working on it, it’s a big change that may be accelerated by eIDAS.