MicroWaveApr 21, 2024

These 112 House Republicans voted against Ukraine aid

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These 112 House Republicans voted against Ukraine aid - Lemmy.World

* The House passed a more than $60 billion bill that provides more military aid to Ukraine. * It’s part of a larger foreign aid package that’s likely to pass the Senate and be signed into law. * 112 Republicans voted it against — the most ever, and a majority of the GOP conference. *** … Saturday’s vote marked the first time the House had approved billions of dollars in Ukraine aid since December 2022, when Democrats still controlled the chamber. In the two years since Russia’s invasion, opposition to aiding Ukraine has grown from a fringe position [https://www.businessinsider.com/which-house-republicans-voted-gaetz-end-military-aid-ukraine-2023-7] to a majority view among House GOP lawmakers. Many argue the money should be spent domestically or that policy changes at the US-Mexico border should take precedence. Here are the 112 House Republicans [https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024151] who voted against the bill.

Show threadAmoxtliApr 21, 2024
The money isn’t going to turn the tide against Russia. Ukraine has no chance of winning. It is just math. Joe Biden has no interest for the well-being of Ukraine. It is preferred for the US that Ukraine bleed Russia. This means every last Ukrainian.
Show threadthemeatbridgeApr 21, 2024

Honestly, what the fuck even is this bullshit?

Ukraine is fighting an invading force that is kidnapping children and targeting infrastructure. They have no choice but to keep fighting. Without financial and military support, Ukraine will cease to be.

You’re not wrong that America benefits from the proxy war that has weakened Putin militarily and politically. Putin, like Trump, is a punkass bitch who is willing to kill to keep projecting power.

If America stops supporting Ukraine, that’s not in anyone’s best interest except Putin.

Show threadAmoxtliApr 21, 2024
With or without financial aid, Ukraine will lose. It is math. Russians invaded Ukraine because the US was trying to isolate Russia from Ukraine. This means no tolerance for pro-Russian Ukrainian presidents; the coup of 2014 that overturned the democratic vote, and the subsequent declarations of independent republics in the Donbas because of the color revolution that undermined democracy. NATO afterward starting arming and training Ukrainians will promote NATO and EU membership. NATO is a US organization, and NATO foreign policy is US foreign policy. Europeans are subservient to the US for security. Most European states don’t support the war in Ukraine privately, but for the sake of NATO unity, they publically support it, because the US pays for NATO defense.
Show threadormrApr 22, 2024
Wrong. EU countries have given over 50 billion $ support so far. Germany alone has given roughly 28 billion. There’s only a handful states that are in opposition against it, including lighthouses of democracy like Hungary…
Show threadAmoxtliApr 24, 2024
That is publically, not privately. Europeans have no independent foreign policy. They have no sovereign foreign policy. They follow the US because the US pays for NATO, therefore NATO publically gets support from NATO members who benefit from US security. Context is important, and no, Germany does not support the war in Ukraine in private matters. Germany does not operate an independent foreign policy. It is actually against German interests to support the war in Ukraine. The US by itself would have no influence in Europe if not for NATO. NATO is the US control over Europe. Many Europeans are aware of this.
Show threadZeppo
bloomberg.com/…/macron-says-eu-can-no-longer-rely…
Macron Says Europe Can No Longer Rely on US for Its Security

French President Emmanuel Macron said the American security umbrella is a thing of the past and that the continent needs to build its own credible defense strategy if it wants to survive.

Bloomberg
Apr 25, 2024 at 5:37pmWeb
Show threadAmoxtliApr 26, 2024
Macron reiterated calls for a third way between the U.S. and China, saying Europe must show that “it’s never going to be a vassal for the United States.” politico.eu/…/emmanuel-macron-europe-china-compet…
Macron warns Europe ‘can die’ in alarmist speech on protectionism, geopolitical threats

Macron reiterated calls for a third way between the U.S. and China, saying Europe must show that “it’s never going to be a vassal for the United States.”

POLITICO