Imagine how scary it’d be if we didn’t know why global temperatures were rising.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/04/20/upshot/carbon-dioxide-growth.html
Imagine how scary it’d be if we didn’t know why global temperatures were rising.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/04/20/upshot/carbon-dioxide-growth.html
Even scarier: imagine if we knew why, and didn't do anything about it...
Worse yet, knowing how and why and still continuing on with the same ecological destruction that causes it, bc capitalists have convinced everyone that "electrify everything" is a viable solution.
@504DR Yes, "electrify everything" is part of the solution, but continuing to generate electricity by burning coal and hydrocarbons is not. Coal/Oil/Gas Capitalists need to burn the fastest.
@wonka @RhinosWorryMe @davidho
For human's problems, it's a solution; for the planetary problems, not so much.
Bc it relies on the further destruction of natural areas to provide the resources to power our energy consumption, which is growing every day.
It's been determined that human activity is the cause of the climate crisis.
In that respect, how is doubling or tripling the worst of our activities, mining/drilling/deforestation and increasing pollution into the environment, helping the situation? Considering that gas/oil is, and will be for the next few decades, used to fuel this electrify everything movement, we are not gaining anything meaningful towards mitigating the climate crisis - we are actually accelerating the effects of it.
The loss of natural areas and the biodiversity they support are a major part of the climate crisis, tho it is rarely talked about or considered, except by the same scientists who are sounding the alarm about CO2 emissions.
Wouldn't a better solution be one that doesn't continue the further destruction of natural areas?
Stop doing what we've always done, take an inventory of the essential energy needs we require, then move forward from there? Separate the wants from the needs.
We waste so much energy on non essential needs; crypto, AI and LLMs are just three of the worst wasters - they aren't needed for the survival of our species but they will ensure the climate crisis will get worse sooner and faster, which is already happening - bc we haven't curtailed the worst of our activities that caused the climate crisis to begin with.
Electrify everything sounds good on it's surface, but digging into it's effects shows it's just another capitalistic scam that will keep profits flowing to those at the top who will benefit from the further destruction of the planet - at the expense of everyone and everything else on the planet.
Extinctions of flora and fauna are happening on a regular basis now.
Do we really think we can thrive on a planet devoid of the biodiversity that is the engine to all life on earth?
We are deep in a hole right now.
The first thing we should do is stop digging (literally) right now.
@504DR What would you want to not electrify but keep as it is? Everything we want to keep running needs to be electrified instead of keeping it running with carbon combustion.
I'm certainly for stopping quite some things, but do you really think Capitalism will just "stop digging right now"?
@wonka @RhinosWorryMe @davidho
No, capitalism won't.
Which is why capitalism won't provide any real solutions. Capitalism is why we're in this mess.
Infinite growth on a finite planet is the epitome of insanity.
We can have a healthy capitalist economy or a healthy planet but not both.
As long as we have capitalism, nothing will be solved regarding the climate crisis.
Sacrifices in our uber luxury lifestyles will need to be made.
The question is, will ppl worldwide choose to make those those sacrifices in a coordinated and fair way or wait until climate change forces them on us?
@wonka @RhinosWorryMe @davidho
Ideally, we should be slashing our energy use to the bare necessities.
Until we do that, we're not serious about combatting climate change.
It's crazy that ppl think we can adapt to a 3C future (no living thing can adapt to 3C), rather than adapt to a lifestyle without all the unnecessary modern conveniences we now have.
Slashing our energy use is what's best for the planet, therefore best for us too.
@504DR "Ideally, we should." Yes. With "we" being "humanity". Which includes egoists like Musk, Trump, Pootin, a lot more capitalists that must be forced to do so. All those that would voluntarily do so are just a drop in the ocean.
@wonka @RhinosWorryMe @davidho
Correct - it requires strong and principled leadership to get the populace there.
Seeing how that is lacking amongst world leaders, we can't expect anything to improve climate wise.
I'm the meantime, I'll do what I can with making my lifestyle as nature friendly as possible.
I don't need to wait for govt entities or anyone else to tell me to do the right thing.
@davidho i have to wonder about the unknown unknowns in this system.
i'd think there'd have to be at least one or two. meaning that at some point, something in the atmosphere or planetary system will be triggered or tipped, and then there probably will be some super crazy shit happening that we do not understand and cannot explain.
time will tell i suppose, because no one seems to be stopping this massive experiment we've done on our little home