New Biden administration Title IX rule protects transgender students’ bathroom & pronoun use at school

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New Biden administration Title IX rule protects transgender students’ bathroom & pronoun use at school - Lemmy.World

Weird… why is nobody commenting about how both parties are the same?
Lol. Right? It looks like the bots haven’t gotten to this one yet

Oh that’s easy, because this doesn’t play into their narrative

Their goal is to stop people from voting this year so that the fascist can win

It’s 1AM in Russia right now.
Don’t disrespect the CCP posting.
The other party loudly proclaimed they don’t want this afaik so… or atleast associate themselves with that idea based on who they elect.
And so few ml posters! How odd!

Out the gate early with the “all criticism of the party means that the critic is saying both parties are the same” canard.

My only criticism of Biden on this is that he’s had the power to do this all along and is only getting around to it now. Democratic legislators had the power to do more back when they had a majority, but they refuse to wield power when we hand it to them.

almost like they’re more okay with fascism than progress?

Almost like the Dept of Ed has been working on these rules for years and the process takes some time and has to be open to public comments and things. The wheels of the government are designed to move slowly. We can discuss if that’s good or not, but this isn’t something Biden decided last week, it’s been in the works for a long time.

And it’s almost politics, especially on the left, is more complicated than one party having the slimmest of possible margins. Did you forget about Sinema and Manchen? Have you already forgotten the fights the Dems in Congress had within the party to get enough support to pass things? If you want more progressive polices to pass than you need to elect even more Dems into Congress so that the few fuckwits in the “center-right” can be relegated to the corner and ignored. That doesn’t work when nothing can pass if even one senator decides to vote no.

Jesus fucking Christ I swear we need to mandate more than one part of one class for how the government works. So many of you out here acting like the moment a Dem becomes president they can just will whatever laws they want into existence.

Did you forget about Sinema and Manchen?

How could anyone forget about the only two democrats whose opinion actually matters?

That’s a good question! But it’s one I ask myself every time someone complains about the Dems not doing enough when they had full control of Congress.

“Why didn’t they pass a student loan bill or abortion protection or $15 minimum wage when they had the chance?” Manchen and Sinema.

Student loans: they didn’t even bother trying to pass anything while Democrats had the majority.

$15 minimum wage: there were 8 members of the Democratic caucus who hated workers enough to go on the record as voting against it.

Don’t pretend Macnhin and Sinema are the full extent of a problem with the party writ large.

Student loans: But it was the fact that Democrats couldn’t even have gotten all their members on board for student loan forgiveness that likely kept them from putting it in the bill, experts say. Given the party’s razor-thin majority, the opposition of one Democrat can derail the entire legislation.

$15 Minimum wage: Sinema famously voted it down.

How exactly does either of these reflect badly on Biden? The whole point is that people like you are forgetting that Biden couldn’t do it alone and that we need more Dems in Congress so that people like her can be put in a corner and ignored. A vote for Biden isn’t an endorsement of all Dems. If you live in a district where a moderate Dem is representing you than do your part in the primaries. If you don’t, do your part in voting in better/more Dems so we can religate the moderates.

Student loans: But it was the fact that Democrats couldn’t even have gotten all their members on board for student loan forgiveness that likely kept them from putting it in the bill, experts say. Given the party’s razor-thin majority, the opposition of one Democrat can derail the entire legislation.

This is speculation for why Democrats didn’t even bother to try.

$15 Minimum wage: Sinema famously voted it down.

Along with 7 other members of the Democratic caucus who hate workers.

How exactly does either of these reflect badly on Biden?

I didn’t say they did. You were trying to blame the actions of the party writ large on two senators. I was correcting you. Nice attempt at diversion.

The whole point is that people like you are forgetting that Biden couldn’t do it alone and that we need more Dems in Congress so that people like her can be put in a corner and ignored.

Yeah, it doesn’t matter how big the majority we have is. Democrats find the no votes to kill progressive policy. I remember when we had a supermajority and gee, wouldn’t you just know it, we had just enough votes to kill the public option. There are always just enough manchins.

If you live in a district where a moderate Dem is representing you than do your part in the primaries. If you don’t, do your part in voting in better/more Dems so we can religate the moderates.

Yeah. I’ve seen exactly how that works. Jessica Cisneros was in the primary in the district next to mine. The national party threw its weight behind the incumbent, Henry Cuellar, and anti-choice, anti-labor NRA stooge. In my district, progressive Michelle Vallejo had her funding cut during the crucial last month of the campaign. This was during the campaign season in which the party did ad buys for MAGA candidates. The party would rather spend money on MAGA chuds and let a progressive lose a competitive race. Your advice regarding local primaries and local elections is useless, and I suspect you know it and are gloating.

Manchin-style centrists ARE the party.

so youre saying the ‘good thing’ biden did wasn’t him? cool.

yeah I know how government functions, but you apparently don’t.

Do you know who the Dept of Ed works for? Do you know who put the guy in charge of that Department?

Biden didn’t directly make this change because he doesn’t have the authority to do that, but he did direct his appointee to do it.

What part of the way the government works did I get wrong? Does the President get to will laws into existence? Did Manchen and Sinema not matter?

maybe if this wasnt a fucking election stunt, wecd care more. I don’t expect this to be enforced.

Biden does a bad thing: See? He’s just like Trump!

Biden does a moderate thing: See? He’s not as left as he should be!

Biden does a good thing early in his term: See? He’s not doing enough yet!

Biden does a good thing halfway into his term: See? It’s just to help the Dems in the midterm!

Biden does a good thing late in his term: See? He’s just trying to appease the people who might vote for him!

but he’s not stopping he genocide.

if he protected trans rights and stopped the genocide, sure. I might consider it. too little too late, dude.

Which party is speaking out against it? And which party has 99% supporting it?
neither party is speaking out against it. neither party has stopped funding them.

points to all the democrats speaking out against it

I can’t tell if you’re a troll or you just don’t read political news. If it’s an innocent mistake, that’s one thing…

they don’t mean it. their powerlessness is strategic, as it (almost) always is.

“I know what other people think so you should trust me instead of listening to those people!”

Okay?

if they meantit, abortion wouk still be legal.
How? By impeaching and removing SCOTUS justices? Dems don’t have the votes for that
could have done it in Congress. could have done a lot of things. Or maybe the system is just bullshit and will never protect us and none of this matters. either way.
No, you can’t do it in Congress. Like it or no, SCOTUS ruled you can’t.
then scouts is invalid and laws are invalid.
See? He’s just like Trump! And he’s not doing enough! And the things he has done are only to help secure votes!
the problem with that is I expect it to revert the day after the election, or at least not be maintained.
Yeah, it’s good, for now. Vote to keep it that way.
but no option on the ballot does that. guess I’m not voting.
Jesus Christ dude, do I need to link you the list of Trump lies told in his four years? What had Biden lied about that’s even close to that!? Trump averaged multiple lies in a day and you’re here saying they are basically the same. If you want Trump to win just vote for him instead of pretending it’s some principled stand against Biden.

damn, gun violence is crazy, as a gun owner i guess i should just shoot myself huh.

(hello mods, hi, this is satire, i’m satirizing, pls don’t kill me, kthnx bye)

Sorry, you expect Biden to undo it if he is elected? Or do you just mean that it will be removed if Trump wins. Of course if Trump wins he’ll undo whatever of Biden’s work he can. I don’t have any reason at all to think Biden would remove it after the election if he won. Why wouldn’t he maintain it?

if i had a nickel for everytime i heard someone say “both parties are the same” i’d have a few dollars, which isn’t much, but it’s weird that i’d have a few dollars.

If i had a nickel for everytime i heard someone reference “both parties are the same” I’d have a lot more than a few dollars, and i’m not sure why. And honestly, it kind of scares me.

Finally some good news for once
Lawsuit from Florida in 3… 2… 1…

I, and many I knew, would 100% identify as female just to walk into the girls bathroom at school.

Communal bathrooms are the problem not who's allowed to use them. if you're a non conforming kid PLEASE just use the disabled bathroom for your own safety.

You are a pervert and sexual deviant. Don’t project your deviance on to others.
Then you and many you knew should’ve been brought up with better manners.

well let me just get into my time machine and ... wait what was your fucking point?

maybe a school should work with what they've got instead of complaining about things that literally can't be changed and putting children in danger. or don't, I don't really care.

I think their point is that you’re the outlier here. I was a teenage boy in school. I’ve literally never seen or heard of someone doing what you described. Normal people are not sexualizing the bathroom, that’s something you’ve come to on your own and that conservatives have this weird interest in for some reason. Maybe you should stop worrying about people taking a dump and just let people do what they want? The only reason this shit is even necessary is because conservatives want to try and legislate away the existence of LGBTQ+ people.

sexualizing the bathroom

Jesus Christ it really is all just projection isn't it.

Kids are going to be drawn to forbidden things and boys are going to do stupid shit, of course you never heard of this brand new thing when you where a kid. IT'S A NEW THING. this is just a new rule to mess with and all it requires is for you to make a claim and no matter how much you think it's a matter of better education kids will will mess with it because kids are fucking awful.

You definitely sound like someone who used to sniff their sisters or moms underwear. Or at least peeked on them in the shower. I hope they never got stuck in a washing machine with you around.

the only place a teen could ever possibly “experiment” in according to you is a school bathroom, by that definition at least.

There is no other possible place where this could be done, everything except for the school bathroom is a void and doesn’t exist.

“…would 100% identify as female just to walk into the girls bathroom”

That’s not “boys being boys” thinking, that’s the thinking of a future sexual assailant.

in isolation sure.

I'm assuming you never had a group of male friends because there would inevitably be an older boy with secret info on how to get into the girls locker room without getting in trouble and then dares and double dares and calls of chicken and anyone dumb enough to put on a skirt and try it would be harassed for the rest of their days.

That's boys being boys

Wow, you’re just a sociopath it seems. My condolences to anyone who has to deal with you on the regular
As a boy that grew up a boy and hung out with other boys, your entire view is disgustingly fucked up. This ain’t Porky’s, pervert. If someone calling you a chicken for not being a predator is enough to make you a predator, I’m amazed you’ve survived this long with little to no spine. Quit trying to normalize fucked up behavior.
Are you a real human? You sound like a character in a poorly written movie

“All my friends are sex offenders or spineless followers, boys will be boys! 🤷‍♂️”

Ok bud. Just because you hung out with the cast of a bad 80s movie doesn’t mean everyone acts like that. And sure, maybe some kids will try it but literally no one with half a brain would fall for the excuse that they’re trans with zero other evidence. Actual trans kids aren’t making the bathroom their sole or first place to transition.

maybe some kids will try it

clearly no one here wants to even entertain that point.

The actual point that all these idiots clutching their pearls missed was that communal bathrooms are the real problem.

Good thing nothing in the article or thread mentioned communal bathrooms
Dude thinks sex comedies from the 80s are real life.
Yeah this is absolutely not normal, nor something anyone I hung out with would ever do.
Do they think girls bathrooms have everyone walking around naked and not like… using the facilities, having taco shits and everything?
The solution to this isn’t ostracized trans people, it’s teaching children not be disgusting perpetrators of sexual harassment like you and many you knew.