https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00368504231201372

Interesting paper. It correctly identifies the source of our problems: behavioral patterns, culture and power structures glorifying consumption and pronatalism. Authors recognize that targeting only symptoms of #overshoot (like #ClimateChange) with incremental technological interventions is a losing strategy.

@pvonhellermannn I know you've lately been thinking about explanations for the lack of climate action. This may offer an interesting perspective.
@jackofalltrades @pvonhellermannn pretty bad takes in this paper. for one, overpopulation isn't an issue anymore, population peak estimates keep getting revised downward.

@fluffykittycat @jackofalltrades ! Thank you for pointing this out, @fluffykittenspambot.

1/2 😊 aside comment first: i think you joined a conversation yesterday, @jackofalltrades, about whether people should be held accountable for their “likes” and “boosts”, and whether those really reflect your opinions: my biggest downfall here is boosting and liking without reading things properly, whilst rushing round doing something else. In this instance:

@fluffykittycat @jackofalltrades

2/4 I did quickly click on paper, thought, “hmm, behavioural science, not my thing, but who knows, maybe interesting” - but failed to see “pronatalism” even though it was in your toot! That is indeed a bit of bad take/red flag. Do still need to read, but in general, i find political economy the most important for explaining climate delay; for example W Davies’ LRB review of B Christopher’s “The Price is Wrong”. So important.

https://mastodon.green/@pvonhellermannn/112291375085199659

Pauline von Hellermann (@[email protected])

#FollowTheMoney đŸ§” 26/n An outstanding review by Will Davies (my Goldsmiths colleague) of Brett Christopher’s “The Price is Wrong”: about our neoliberal political economy (using a Braudelian distinction btw “the market” and “capitalism” - SO useful) and how this explain why investments in fossil fuels continue to vastly outstrip those in renewables. Key point: Capitalism IS rent-seeking. #ClimateEmergency https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n07/william-davies/antimarket

Mastodon.green

@fluffykittycat @jackofalltrades

3/4 I am, by the way, a (sadly not very active) member of CSSN (climate social science network), all reearchers look at causes of #ClimateDelay or #climatedelayism - a lot of interesting stuff here. Again, mostly about political economy, power structures and climate politics

https://cssn.org/about-us/

Social science and political science on climate change

Scholars in the network are social scientists producing peer-reviewed research on understanding political conflict over climate change.

Brown Climate Social Science Network

@fluffykittycat @jackofalltrades

4/4 Having said this, I am also very interested in psychology work on climate delayism/denial, in particular on #disavowal suxh as Sally Weintrob - see great overview in this paper, written by Aaron (i did the part on the neoliberal university). And continue to be open to other takes (though not “pronotalism”. But must read).

[Apologies this has turned into a 4-part reply! My heart sometimes sinks when i see this yet i do it myself!]

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/feduc.2023.1237076

“No research on a dead planet”: preserving the socio-ecological conditions for academia

Despite thousands of higher education institutions (HEIs) having issued Climate Emergency declarations, most academics continue to operate according to ‘business-as-usual’. However, such passivity increases the risk of climate impacts so severe as to threaten the persistence of organized society, and thus HEIs themselves. This paper explores why a maladaptive cognitive-practice gap persists and asks what steps could be taken by members of HEIs to activate the academy. Drawing on insights from climate psychology and sociology, we argue that a process of ‘socially organized denial’ currently exists within universities, leading academics to experience a state of ‘double reality’ that inhibits feelings of accountability and agency, and this is self-reenforcing through the production of ‘pluralistic ignorance.’ We further argue that these processes serve to uphold the cultural hegemony of ‘business-as-usual’ and that this is worsened by the increasing neo-liberalization of modern universities. Escaping these dynamics will require deliberate efforts to break taboos, through frank conversations about what responding to a climate emergency means for universities’ – and individual academics’ – core values and goals.

Frontiers

@pvonhellermannn @fluffykittycat

Thank you for a thoughtful reply, Pauline.

The authors of the paper place pronatalism in the context of the political economy and power structures:

"Pronatalism is a set of social and institutional pressures placed on people to have children, often driven by forces such as patriarchy, religion, nationalism, militarism and capitalism."

That's why I thought this to be an interesting perspective on the topic.

It is not the sole focus of the paper though.

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@pvonhellermannn @fluffykittycat

As I understand it, it is not at all clear if we can feed 8 billion people without fossil fuels. Statistics like these:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/world-population-with-and-without-fertilizer

or calculations like these:

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2003-10-02/eating-fossil-fuels/

suggest the answer is no.

If that is correct then reducing population by having less children sounds like the most humane solution. Certainly more humane than famine or war.

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World population with and without synthetic nitrogen fertilizers

Estimates of the global population reliant on synthetic nitrogenous fertilizers, produced via the Haber-Bosch process for food production. Best estimates project that just over half of the global population could be sustained without reactive nitrogen fertilizer derived from the Haber-Bosch process.

Our World in Data

@pvonhellermannn @fluffykittycat

We live in a world of no easy answers. On one hand we have papers like these that take an honest look at both consumption and population levels. On the other, there are ideologues like Musk that say there are not enough people in the world, that technology can solve all problems and that humanity is destined to colonize space.

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