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breakfastmtn Apr 13, 2024

Unequipped and outgunned, Ukrainian military often can’t evacuate its wounded

https://lemmy.ca/post/19246352

Unequipped and outgunned, Ukrainian military often can’t evacuate its wounded - Lemmy.ca

The main reason for the absence of medical evacuation is simple and gruesome: The fighting is just too intense. It can take a day or even two for soldiers to get in and out of the fiercest fighting spots – killing any hopes of medics coming to save the wounded. Left alone at the positions, the soldiers often have to pull out their comrades on their own under heavy shelling, sometimes walking five to seven kilometers to the nearest evacuation points, where vehicles take them to makeshift hospitals. When soldiers carry their wounded out, the group is easy to spot – and it immediately becomes easy prey to Russian first-person view (FPV) drones and artillery. MBFC [https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/kyiv-independent-bias/] Archive [https://archive.is/rGU7l]

tsonfeir Apr 13, 2024

It’s not looking good for Ukraine. :(

empireOfLove2 Apr 13, 2024

Russian propaganda and kompromat is working as intended. Putin has proven that the cohesion of western democratic states can be broken with almost no effort, as a result we will see a completely unprecedented rise in territory grabbing and fascist dictatorships over the next 20 years.

Linkerbaan Apr 13, 2024

You do realize the Democrats are still in power right? You cannot blame it on Republicans right now.

You do realise that it’s a republican house, right? And that they’re the ones holding up aid, right?

eardon Apr 13, 2024

That means there’s nothing the democrats can do :(

Linkerbaan Apr 13, 2024

No they are not. Biden is holding up aid.

Or can he only bypass congress and do secret arms deals for israel?

papertowels Apr 13, 2024

Hold on, for the record Republicans most certainly are holding up aid to Ukraine.

Your first link errors out

Re: the second link, do you know if we’re selling arms to Ukraine, or giving it to them?

Full List of Republicans Who Voted Against Military Aid to Ukraine

A bill providing military aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan passed a procedural vote in the Senate on Monday.

Newsweek

Linkerbaan Apr 13, 2024

Fixed the first link.

Republicans most certainly are holding up aid to Ukraine.

Irrelevant. Biden is abusing his presidential powers to enable literal Genocide. He could easily abuse his powers in the same way to get weapons to Ukraine

Joe Biden Could Send Millions Of Artillery Shells To Ukraine, For Free, Tomorrow. And It’s Perfectly Legal.

If you say “Biden doesn’t want to break the rules like Trump” that’s one thing, but that excuse doesn’t hold up because he already does it for israel.

Joe Biden Could Send Millions Of Artillery Shells To Ukraine, For Free, Tomorrow. And It’s Perfectly Legal.

There’s a bureaucratically complex but perfectly legal way for the administration of Pres. Joe Biden to send to Ukraine the thing Ukrainian brigades need most. Shells.

Forbes

papertowels Apr 13, 2024

So let me get this straight, instead of blaming people who are actively acting against something, you are focusing instead on someone who isn’t abusing a loophole?

That doesn’t set the stage up for a very reasonable conversation, and suggests that you’re wanting to discuss Israel/Gaza moreso than Ukraine, so I don’t see a need to engage in conversation.

Linkerbaan Apr 13, 2024

So let me get this straight, instead of blaming the person in power you blame random peons and deflect from it even though you have just been presented with evidence that this person can clearly do so

papertowels Apr 13, 2024

Random peons being the ones elected to pass policy and control the budget, right?

And the president only being able to help if he blatantly abused a loophole, right?

If that’s the case, yeah you’ve got it right.

Linkerbaan Apr 13, 2024

the person who isn’t abusing a loophole to help.

You have just been linked evidence that Biden is abusing the loophole. For israel.

So that entire argument goes out of the window. Genocide Joe does abuse his presidential powers. He did it for israel when Republicans were blocking their weapons. He simply does not care for Ukraine to do so.

papertowels Apr 13, 2024

Genocide Joe does abuse his presidential powers. He does it for israel **when Republicans are blocking their weapons. He does not do it for Ukraine. **

Okay but can we talk about the conditional you put on your statement here?

Are you just going to pretend that doesn’t exist?

Linkerbaan Apr 13, 2024

Oh no the Republicans are most definitely trying to screw over Ukraine. The claim is that Russian propaganda, aka **only **the Republican party is responsible here. In reality both sides are responsible for. Democrats have the power to do something about it if they wanted. But it is looking more and more like using Ukrainians as cannon fodder for a few years against Russia and then abandoning them was the plan all along.

Lets see if Ukrainians willjoin the long list of allies used to fight an enemy and then thrown aside. I’m sure the Kurds will welcome them with open arms.

papertowels Apr 13, 2024

Okay, so now that we’ve cleared that up, we’re still selling Ukraine arms, as of 4 days ago…

Linkerbaan Apr 13, 2024

Oh cool I haven’t read about that one before. So Biden did find out how to abuse his powers for Ukraine as well

The sale will require temporary-duty travel to Europe of an estimated five U.S. government employees and 15 contractor representatives to support training and sustainment, the official said.Presidential drawdown authority had been used previously to transfer HAWK equipment to Ukraine. That provision allows the United States to transfer defense articles and services from American stocks quickly without congressional approval in response to an emergency.

So basically all we need is Biden doing this a few hundred times more and then Ukraine has the arms it needs.