On the one hand, I’m happy to see fellow vegans all stand up against animal abuse, even though what was done to this wolf wasn’t anywhere near the level of horror carnists inflict on factory farmed animals.

On the other hand, I’m not sure I can get on the bandwagon of inflicting double the suffering these animals experience to the non-vegans that cause it (either by doing it themselves, or paying someone else to do it for them because of their delicate sensibilities).

Firstly because I don’t think a sentient being can experience that much suffering without literally dying to shock (these creatures have their limbs ripped off, skin tore off, sit in their own shit and piss day in and day out, etc.) so doubling that and doing it to non-vegans would essentially just be the same as mass-killing non-vegans.

Secondly, I’m not sure that retributive justice is even the path. Like yes, make abuse and paying for others to abuse on your behalf illegal, no doubt. But a lot of carnists would stop if it was illegal. Only the ones that subvert the system and go to the black market to continue their abuse would have to be jailed to force them to stop abuse.

Once they’re not a threat anymore, what’s the value of inflicting more harm?

even though what was done to this wolf wasn’t anywhere near the level of horror carnists inflict on factory farmed animals.

Firstly : This isn’t a comparison. There can be more than one bad thing. It’s not taking away from one thing just to be upset at another. The only person making this as a competition is you.

Secondly: I’m gonna bet you don’t actually have a proper clue what happens on farms…

On the other hand, I’m not sure I can get on the bandwagon

K. no one here begged you to.

because of their delicate sensibilities

Said the person who never stepped foot on a farm and gets all their ‘resources’ from staged Facebook posts about what happens on farms all within sitting on their living room couch.

Firstly…

Yeah, you clearly have no idea what happens on farms.

I’m not sure that retributive justice is even the path.

Oh the high ground for someone guilting using hyperbole and poorly garnished ideas for emotional effect. Yes I’m sure we should model ourselves off of you. You, the pinnacle of how to do arguments that don’t make animal rights activists sound no different from conspiracy theorists.

Holy shit, a person who literally doesn’t believe factory farms exist? I’ve actually never met one of you. I’ve heard so many different rationalizations from carnists, but the straight-up belief that factory farms just don’t exist and that all evidence we have of them existing is staged is awesome!

I recently met someone who similarly believed January 6th was entirely staged, and that all evidence we have of that is made-up by woke-leftists with an agenda. It’s absolutely incredible what humans are capable of.