adONisApr 12, 2024

These mods on their power-trips really need to stop

https://programming.dev/post/12678361

These mods on their power-trips really need to stop - programming.dev

I just got banned from [email protected] [[email protected]], which seems to be the biggest Linux community out there. For context, it was about the recent Vaxerski incident, where I shared my personal opinion about the whole gender stuff. I wasn’t even trying to be hurtful against anyone, just shared my 2 cents in an already ongoing conversation. Sure, ine might not agree with my opinion, and I don’t agree with others, and this is totally normal. But at least we should be able to have sane and respectful conversations where no one is insulting each other, or anyone else… without having a mod intervening into the conversation So to all the mods out there: Your personal opinion does not give you the right to delete comments and block users, just because their opinions don’t align with yours!

Show threadmissingnoApr 12, 2024
Refusing to treat people with the barest minimum of respect is not a "personal opinion", it's behavior that no space should tolerate.
Show threadadONisApr 12, 2024

barest minimum of respect

what’s that even supposed to mean? If I talk to someone like I do with everyone else, without changing my tone/or opinion based on whatever race/religion/identity they go by, then I certainly am treating everyone with the same amount of respect.

We’ve lived for millennia now, and I don’t recall a single book where a person of the past was mentioned in addition with their pronoun, in the sense of “____ was a writer/artist/mathematician in the late 1800s who went by they/them”… etc.

We’re introducing unnecessary complications into an already complicated society we live in.

Show threadZeroCool
LGBTQ and non-binary people existed in the 19th century too, they just weren’t safe to live as they chose to publicly. I understand that you’d clearly prefer all these people go back in the closet, but are you really daft enough to think we just invented pronouns in the 2010s or something? For fuck sake…
Apr 12, 2024 at 1:57pmWeb
Show threadadONisApr 12, 2024
ok, then what about the 16th century, 5th, 2nd, 100 B.C, 200 B.C?
Show threadZeroCoolApr 12, 2024
Yes, homosexuality and non-gender conforming individuals have existed throughout human history and across all cultures with varying social attitudes toward them. You know, you’re quite opinionated for someone with no demonstrable understanding of the topic.
Show threadadONisApr 12, 2024

You’re talking as if transgenderism and homosexuality (and their problems) emerged in the 19th century. That’s why I asked you about the other centuries?

Pederasty was a socially acceptable thing back in 600 b.c amongst the Etruscans, for example.

Show threadZeroCoolApr 12, 2024
I neither said nor implied any such thing. You brought up books written in the 1800s which is why my reply specifically addressed the 19th century. You’re either dumb or you’re here in bad faith, but based on your last sentence, being a weak attempt to shift the conversation from LGBTQ and non-binary people to pederasts, which is straight out of the right-wing playbook, it’s safe to assume the latter. So we’re done here.
Show threadadONisApr 12, 2024
lol, right-wing playbook… dude, I’m anything but right-wing
Show threadEl BartoApr 13, 2024

Man. I really wanted to support you, but you’re making it very difficult.

You’re accusing people of being right-wing instead of listening what they (the person) has to say. Nothing the OP has said reeked of “right-wing.” In turn, you just linked pedophiles to gay people - perhaps unintentionally, but damn, man. That’s actually bigot talk. Now, I’m not saying you are. But again, take a step back and reflect in how you approach these themes. Otherwise you’ll be making more harm than good.

And this is something coming from a dude who recently had to deal with a dense person who mischaracterized my willingness to be an ally by saying it was anything but.

Show threadJaymesRSApr 12, 2024
This wiki page, not itself as an original source but as a collection of original papers in the references for you to peruse at your leisure is a great starting point. But your question is a bit like the “Did you know Aristotle never said ‘Thank You’? Mostly because he didn’t speak English.” Joke. You are expecting modern accommodations and language in texts from a different era that would have used unfamiliar forms or language like ancient Egypt that had a 3rd gender “sekhet”.
History of nonbinary gender - Nonbinary Wiki