MicroWaveThe less you vote, the more you back Trump
bloodfartso is the line now that even though the biden administrations policies are wildly unpopular there’s no reason to be worried or examine support held for the party because the turnout will make up the difference?
shoo!
SpaceCowboyYou were probably taught in school that democracy is a wondrous ideal thing.
When you become an adult you realize democracy isn’t about voting for who you like the most. It’s about preventing bad people from getting power. You will never get to vote for some ideal perfect person, and even if you did the general muddiness of politics would prevent that person from being able to make the change they want.
Yes, it’s “the line” now. But to be more accurate, it’s always been the line.
It’s what US democracy is. In a lot of countries, you get to vote for people who represent you, and the system works out stopping people who are widely disliked by parties forming coalitions after the vote.
Look at the NL, and how it deals with a Trump-like candidate. He got a plurality of the vote, yet is unable to form a government because none of the other parties cooperate.
Great. We’re not in the NL. That’s not how it works here.
That’s my point, this is how the US works, this is not how democracy in general works. OP was saying that these faults are a natural consequence and inseparable from democracy. I’m bringing up a counterexample. It can be done better.
I think we agree on that the US system is incapable of stopping such a wildly unpopular candidate if they reach a plurality of the votes.
Right, I’m just trying to head off the ridiculous idea that some people have that in the US we can vote for our ideal candidate.
There’s a difference between voting for an ideal candidate and not being able to vote for one materially supporting a genocide. “not funding genocide” isn’t an ideal, it’s a bare minimum. If not funding genocide is ‘idealistic’ to you, then I want no part of anything you’re trying to sell.
“not funding genocide” isn’t an ideal, it’s a bare minimum.
Doesn’t matter, that option is not one of the two choices.
It’s “try to restrain the genocide” or “make genocide worse”. Pick one. And if you say they’re equally bad, you’re an idiot.
Who’s trying to restrain the genocide? Last I checked Biden says nice things then does nothing but send more weapons?
You want Democrats to singlehandedly change the First Past the Post voting system?