lemmyreader'Pay or Okay' explained: Why more and more websites make you pay for your privacy - noyb
I’m fine with this trend.
Servers aren’t free and engineers aren’t cheap. Online products need to make money in our world.
If you’re not paying them they need something to sell to someone else.
drktServers aren’t free but it’s damn cheap if you don’t bloat up your backend
And the way you don’t bloat your backend?
Expensive engineers
Amerikan PharaohThrowing more bodies at a situation does NOT solve the situation faster, seriously, this shit is the most remedial, 101-level shit in pretty much any field where man-hours are a measuring metric.
Seriously, you can't have nine pregnant women and expect one baby in one month.
That’s probably why he wrote “expensive” and not “many”.
It’s almost like he pluralized something implying “go get more”. I’m not playing semantic gymnastics with you ballbags this morning
Idk I immediately understood what he meant, no need to be so rude about it
Probably having a bad day and is angry at something else, but lashing out online. Happens all the time.
Anti Commercial AI thingyExpensive engineers is a category dipshit.
You add an S to a noun in English to show it’s a category or grouping instead of a specific individual.
Learn to fucking read. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_category
That’s not what I said or even remotely implied.
If you want a good back end that isn’t bloated you can’t use cheap contractors or junior engineers - you need someone who knows what they’re doing.
It’s a fight I’m constantly fighting at work. They finally dropped all the super cheap contractors that were trying to hard code a list of 20 identical entries that differed only by a single field. The contractors who thought the peak of architectural design was decomposition of any method more than 5 lines long into confusingly named functions that had an additional 10 layers of decomposition to them. The cheap contractors who thought that documentation was a waste of time and that the code was “self documenting”.
These contractors weren’t paid to care - I don’t blame them for phoning it in. But if you want a system to work well and be cheap to run you pay your engineers well or inspire such devotion that FOSS is possible.
But the fact is the overwhelming majority of large, optimized and successful FOSS is funded by megacorps
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optimizing backend services is expensive because good engineers are expensive
um acktually you can’t build services faster by hiring tons of people 🤓🤓
Reading comprehension: you lack it.
The cheap contractors who thought that documentation was a waste of time and that the code was “self documenting”.
Unfortunately, there are expensive engineers who think the same 😦 I don’t know how they pass technical interviews or probationary periods.
Anti Commercial AI thingyDefinitely - hiring isn’t easy.
But you’ll never get value for money from engineers who don’t care, and you have a 0% chance of a cheap contractor caring.
Again - I don’t blame them. They shouldn’t care. The company clearly doesn’t respect them.
But it’s a false economy.
Again - I don’t blame them. They shouldn’t care. The company clearly doesn’t respect them.
True. Some people aren’t paid enough to care 👍
But it’s a false economy.
Is that a typo or a term I don’t know?
Anti Commercial AI thingyNot a typo - a false economy is a decision that saves money in the short term but wastes more than it saves in the long term.
Thank you, learned something new!
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Either you get:
- many engineers --> lots of money
- some good/very good/excellent engineers --> lots of money
Either way, it’s expensive.
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The DoctorHow expensive do we have to be for them to actually listen to us for a change? Or do you mean “expensive consultants?”
Well yeah this presupposes that management knows what the fuck they’re doing.
Which is vanishingly rare. It happens sometimes though. I worked at a small 12 man shop that had an engineer CEO who valued doing things right. Very refreshing.