I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it a thousand times: The treatment for an ectopic pregnancy, a septic uterus, or a miscarriage that your body won’t release is abortion. If you can’t get those abortions, you die. You. Die.

@Strandjunker

Andrea, what if the medical community reclassified those medical situations and came up with descriptions that were say, more appropriate.

Maybe "surgical excision of tumor" instead of "abortion"!

My physician removed a pre-cancerous lesion from my hand and he didn't call it an abortion!

@PerryM @Strandjunker

I refuse to believe that you actually think this is a good idea

@PerryM @Strandjunker Are you actually as dumb as a box of rocks, or do you just do that here?
@PerryM @Strandjunker , although I hate having to be politically correct, the goal is control over your own body, and if pacifying idiots with changes in language works, we DO it.

@Strandjunker

*Women* die.

Disposable second class citizens in right wing christian world.

@FallsMom @Strandjunker people who can get pregnant die. Even if you want to do a gender exclusion thing, which I'm not willing to argue with you, science can do that. Pregnant children exist. They are not women.

@FallsMom @Strandjunker ugh flashing back to this guy I knew who was "above politics" and when I expressed sadness to him over the Kavanaugh hearings he was like "why, did he do something?"

Then he faked suicide for attention. Real charmer.

Anyway.

@Strandjunker
Obviously biology, like climate science, is too complicated for white GOP politicians to comprehend.
@stargazersmith no need to exclude non-white GOP politicians here either. See Ted Cruz, Tim Scott, et al.
@Strandjunker They'll probably prosecute you for a miscarriage. 😡
@Strandjunker Republicans: stop, I can only get so erect!

@Strandjunker My sister had two ectopic pregnancies.

I don't get along with her but the death penalty seems harsh.

@Strandjunker Yeah but some toothless incel right-wing nutjob gets to feel sanctimonious about getting abortion banned, and isn't that really more important?

@Strandjunker
And guess what? Those are NOT the abortions people have a problem with... Its the woman who are too weak to be a mom and take the cowardly act of killing their own child because they don't want to support their own child.
@Blade @Strandjunker 1. It doesn't matter. We don't force people to put their own bodies on the line to sustain someone/something else. 2. I've seen otherwise: the belief that every pregnancy is created by God, so if he wants to kill someone with an exploded fallopian tube or a dead fetus, that's his business.

@textualdeviance @Strandjunker

I'm glad I was a man enough to want my children and I'm glad my parents were not cowards.

@Blade It's not your body at risk, is it?
@Blade @Strandjunker let's talk about all the men too weak to be a father, running off, paying no child support. If their kids survive it is not thanks to them. Should they die too?

@Strandjunker
You think she's joking? You think that won't happen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

Death of Savita Halappanavar - Wikipedia

@Voline @Strandjunker and I understand the USA has had some very near misses already.
The only thing that panicked me as a GP was a young woman with a ? Ectopic pregnancy.
#RepealThe19th: Donald Trump supporters tweet new anthem after Nate Silver's poll shows he'd win if only men voted

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@Strandjunker
What kind of civilization do these fuckers really want?
It’s all completely inhumane, uncivilized, violating all of our rights-
These psychos must be removed from office, not tolerated in our country anymore. To the extent that it’s safe, that is.
Law enforcement should be doing double duty to protect US from THEM.
They want to reign over all like barbarians w machine guns.
#FuckRepubliKKKans #VoteBlueDownBallot #Pissed

@Strandjunker Wow. your crowd here is worse than it was on the bird site.

Yes, we need to be understanding the medical terms, and that reproductive attempts often kill women. That's not why I'm here.

I am here because women are being treated like cattle. Still. it needs to stop.

@janisf @Strandjunker
The point of commenting was? A senseless refrain?

@Rosa @Strandjunker As a matter of fact, to keep the wider conversation on point.

I'm catching a hint of acrimony, here, so Imma be done here, now.

All the best.

@Strandjunker In the 1980s, I had a conversation with a law student doing work on abortion rights at Harvard Law. I suggested that anti-abortion people would end up by having every miscarriage investigated as a possible homicide & that women should sue the authorities who refused them abortions (& their own fetuses) for involuntary servitude.

She didn't like either idea.

@Strandjunker Personally, I wish someone fleeing a U.S. state criminalizing these life-saving treatments overseas and requesting asylum and protection to make a legal precedent to it.

After all, Texas is retroactively prosecuting people with it's borders for ever havingban abortion...

@Strandjunker And for all the conservatives who claim otherwise, I present to you the tragic death of Savita Halappanavar in Ireland. When a country as devoutly Catholic as Ireland is can have safe abortion laws, why can't USA?

Abortion is #healthcare.

#WomensRights #health

@Strandjunker Looking at this from a distance (with disgust and disbelief, I have to add), I am stunned that there are apparently so many people who would vote for people supporting these laws. You live in a state where there are so many nutcases around that it is just not safe living there.
@Strandjunker
There's a fundamental disconnect between the way medical personnel & the general public use the word abortion. To them, it's "removal of the products of conception," which includes a tiny fragment of retained placenta.
@Strandjunker who’s trying to ban abortions in medical emergencies like these?
@Strandjunker And that's what the bible-thumpers want.
@Strandjunker One of those isn't and never has been a pregnancy. An ectopic implantation isn't a pregnancy. It never has been. Putting it in the category with the other two is a category error. Don't keep making that error.