Market Disruptor - sh.itjust.works

I ran into my mail lady when I was getting my mail the other day. Turns out she had just tossed everything a few days before and started lecturing me on not letting my mailbox fill up.

I went there to get a new card that Id been informed was sent a few days ago and asked her how it got so full.

Then I saw all the junk mail she was shoving in and , not thinking, asked her if I could unsubscribe from all the obvious crap because mail is almost useless these days. She got a sad look on her face and I almost felt bad

Flyers are a big part of our salary. We lose money every time someone asks to be put on the list. I don't know how often you check your box, but some people on my route don't check for months. I don't give those people flyers once it fills up. But if you're still getting mail and we have to clear out the flyers to make room, we do tend to get little annoyed.

She should have simply asked if you like flyers
You can not like flyers but still get flyers since you didn't ask to be put on the list. We usually know which ones don't like our don't care about flyers. If you leave a note taped to the bottom of your box at the front so that we see our while we're working, we'll usually not give you flyers while also forgetting to report it when we get back to the office. There are lots of options that let us bend the rules. We'll work with you if you give us a chance.

Addressed ad mail is a different story. We legally have to deliver everything as addressed, even junk mail. Those you have to fight with whoever is sending you that crap.

Hang on, why are you penalized if mail customers don’t want flyers?
USPS makes money from postage. Flyers require paid postage. If you indicate you don’t want to receive offers or flyers, that’s less money for the USPS.
And usps sees fit to pass those losses on to postmen?
I don’t believe it is passed directly to them. Though I could be wrong.
Well Rs decided it needed to be run as a business but also “future proof” itself (unlike a business) by preparing money now for all future postmen as well. Conservatives also prevented usps from making a secure certified email service. Of course we also still have dejoy the dismantler at the helm.

Mail volume is checked once a year for rebalancing mailboxes on routes among an office’s employees. The volume on a route during mail count also affects direct pay, even though it varies throughout the year. So yes, less spam mail does impact the post person, though it’d have to be on a much larger scale to be significant and occur during mail count season (spring time iirc).

Source: parent is a rural post person

If it makes you feel better I love junk flyers because it’s free bird cage liners for me. And the nicer quality the paper the easier it is to clean up after my birds. I’ve actually had friends save their junk mail for me.
Good to know I am not the only one who does not check my mail for months

Addressed marketing is the reason my letterbox gets so full.

The previous 7 tenants of my unit haven’t updated their address (why would they? It’s just catalogues, newsletters and flyers, they’re not even enveloped, they just have an address label and stamp on the front page of the flyer) and they each get 3-4 “useless” letters per week. I’ve tried the “return to sender” and emailed the property agent asking if they can remind past tenants to update their addresses via email.

I’ve lived here for almost 4 years, so I’m at the point where everything goes into the recycling bin despite that being illegal, the post office was just as sick as I was, showing up once a week for 2 years straight with 20 undeliverable rain damaged letters that they themselves just immediately destroyed.

I always forget to check the mailbox because I’m not expecting any mail. Nothing in the box is ever for me, even when I got a new bank card delivered they hold it at the post office for me because that’s how I’ve got my mail set up. I get a text when I have mail to pick up. (and I’ll bring the stack of junk mail in my mailbox that aren’t for me to the post office when I go to get my mail, but if I don’t have a reason to go to the post office, sorry previous tenants, I’m sick of the 7 ALDI catalogues every week, they’re going in the shredder, and I’m willing to risk jail over it)

Damn. I’m in the same boat and was hoping this story had a happy resolution.

You can actually! You have to pay like $3 to unsubscribe from junk mail (ridiculous, right?), but you can! You have to unsubscribe from pre-screened credit cards separately. I did both a couple years ago and reclaimed my mailbox.

For junk mail:

dmachoice.org

For CC bullshit:

consumer.ftc.gov/now-leaving?external_url=http%3A…

An article from the government about both:

consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-stop-junk-mail

DMAchoice is a mail preference service offered by the ANA.

DMAChoice is the only reasonable way to get rid of Junk Mail. The US post office (USPS) is no help when it comes to stopping unwanted mail. Register now to stop junk mail and emails, as well as registering the deceased and caretakers.

Wow that’s awesome!
I know I’m going to sound like a bit of a dick, but where I am I just put a little sticker that says “no junk mail” on my letter box and then the junk mail stops. That’s more awesome imo
Yeah I’m super confused that they have to pay to opt out. You in Australia! I also have the little sticker. Honour system at work maybe?
I unsubscribed from the junk mail I was getting just to realize that my mailman just puts the same junk into every box in my neighborhood without looking at the address, so I still get my neighbor’s junk mail lol
I definitely don’t get any more. Maybe you can complain about your mail carrier.
Just checked DMA Choice to confirm that I already paid to unsubscribe from junk mail like 3 years ago. Still get piles of unavoidable mailers every week. I asked my post office about it and they told me any mail that is addressed “Current Resident” or the like instead of my name legally has to get delivered. So yeah, it’s fucking useless.