OhaI hate that guy
jwigumShouldn’t use Watterson’s work. He fought long and hard against stuff like this…
CatoblepasCould you link to more information about this?
He’s famously against all commercialization of the strip and I think he’d feel this similarly devalues it.
On Bill Watterson’s Refusal To License Calvin and Hobbes — THE LEGAL ARTIST
When Calvin and Hobbes went out of print twenty years ago, I think most people assumed it would return at some point. I know I certainly did. Calvin and Hobbes was a formative part of my youth - the sly brilliant writing and stark black and white illustrations providing color to my sense of
That seems to be mostly about monetization and commodification, which should already be absent from shitposting.
I get that but I respect Watterson too much to assume his stance.
Well somebody should pop over to Chagrin Falls and ask him
I think he’d feel this similarly devalues it.
I respect Watterson too much to assume his stance.
Well… which is it? Do you respect him too much to assume his stance or are you assuming he’d feel this similarly devalues it?
I mean I don’t want to assume he’d be alright with it therefore I won’t use it. Nothing I said was definitive, just what I think.
samus12345Did you mean “this” stance, maybe?
I suppose that would also have worked, but no.
Here is a wiki source (insert error bars here) discussion of his stance on his work being officially licensed. He thought that use of his work outside of a comic strip would cheapen the value of the strip itself. This was frusterating as a child (who wouldn’t want a fucking Hobbes plushy) but now later I can see that it was at the very least a very defensible choice. Compare how people feel about C&H vs something that was commercialized to death like Garfield. Anyway, hope it’s useful.
Licensing
Bill Watterson is renowned for his insistence that cartoon strips should stand on their own as an art form, and he has rigorously forbade the use of Calvin and Hobbes in merchandising of any sort. This insistence stuck despite what was probably a cost of millions of dollars per year in additional income for himself and the Universal Press Syndicate. He thought it would cheapen the strip when merchandised. Watterson shared some of his issues with licensing in The Calvin and Hobbes Tenth Anniversa
Like this specifically?
Cancel culture can go die in an echo chamber
What about that comment is cancel culture?
Cancel Culture, Woke, Communism… When you don’t understand a lot about the modern world, you just start using words and phrases you also don’t understand to mean “I dislike this”
Nice straw man, no just cancel culture.
Again, what do you mean by cancel culture? The original comment was asking for people to honour Watterson’s view that Calvin should not be used outside the comic. Who was being cancelled and how?
Read OPs meme, then the comment above mine and try again for context. Pretty self explanatory: Meme is a “we should stop … piece of shit” a calvin cancel x meme…
So you don’t actually have an explanation. Chowder is a bigot, and people shouldn’t give him a platform. You defending him is consigning his bigotry.
Also he hasn’t been cancelled, nor is he likely to be.
Are you upset that people don’t like him and are speaking out against him? Or is it a larger disdain about the practice of speaking out against people amd calling for them to be excluded?
If it is the second one, Chowder makes his money that way, and participates in a practice you claim to disdain.
Though I think it’s the first beacuse you like what he says.
This isn’t cancel culture though. You are proving my point.
And my last post wasn’t a straw man either… It was describing people who use terms they don’t understand to express their dislike of things. It’s literally you. In this thread.
I mean… I guess it could be that you’re knowingly misusing it just to create anger and division. But you wouldn’t do that, would you? That would make -you- the problem.
Yeah, considering they haven’t even tried to respond, this is the most likely scenario.
I mean, not really though. He fought to keep companies from merchandizing C&H, mainly because he “wanted to keep the characters pure to every reader’s internal voice.” Basically to keep companies from turning it into a shitty profit center or bastardizing it with a cartoon, etc. I don’t think he really said anything or would have a problem with fans using the images to share stuff, y’know?
Becoming a meme format is a great way to strip all of the original context for most, just look at the point of this thread. Just because it’s C+H isn’t going to stop that.
Like we saw with the bumper stickers, it wasn’t just the stupid Ford v Chevy thing, it was that anyone wanting to make a stupid point on their bumper sticker was lending Calvin’s voice to their own stupid crusade.