UltragigagiganticGermans: what genocide?
GregorGizehStaatsräson 🫠
We know genocide, we had one
And no, the Herero and Nama genocide wasn’t a genocide
OrbituaryThose were practice rounds?
Sparkling Genocide
Its was one, du Lurch. We deliberately drove 80.000 People into the fucking desert and watched as they starved.
Every Jew in modern day Germany…
flying_sheepThey are already. Antisemitic violence has been on the rise here since October 7. Antisemites see Israel do a thing and think “I know, let’s hurt some Jews”
I think the bigger problem is Germany arresting Jews for antisemitism.
Protesting Israel is considered antisemitism in Germany even if you’re Jewish. Real antisemitism is also on the rise but all pro-Palestinian protests are also lumped in. Anti-Zionist jews (Jewish Voice for Peace, etc) always on the forefront of these marches.
psvrhIf it weren’t tragic, it would be funny.
I as a german asked an expert on that topic. Chatgpt. According to chatGPT there is no genocide if you don’t kill them with the intention to wipe them from the planet. So if for example you drop accidentally poison into their water because you mixed the Botox and sugar bottle in the water station then even if they all die it is not a genocide.
And since chatgpt is infallable this is the only truth.
Upvoted but I wish you would have run your post through ChatGPT as well my friend. That was hard to read.
Comma rule in German is so fucked that normal humans just give up and never use any.
None of those sentences needed commas, they’re just not constructed very clearly.
I’ve counted 6 missing commas.
You overuse commas.
No, he doesn’t.
Read some Cormac McCarthy some time.
I, as a German, asked an expert on that topic: ChatGPT. According to ChatGPT, there is no genocide if you don’t kill them with the intention to wipe them from the planet. So, if for example you drop accidentally poison into their water because you mixed the Botox and sugar bottle in the water station, then even if they all die it is not a genocide.
And since Chatgpt is infallible, this is the only truth.
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Six commas, colon, capitalization, “infallible”. Infallible like my editing 🤓 & dunt u disagreeme
I, as a German, asked an expert on that topic: ChatGPT. According to ChatGPT, there is no genocide if you don’t kill them with the intention to wipe them from the planet. So, if for example you drop accidentally poison into their water because you mixed the botox and sugar bottle in the water station, then even if they all die it is not a genocide.
And since ChatGPT is infallible, this is the only truth.
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Six commas, colon, capitalization, “infallible”. Infallible like my editing 🤓 & dunt u disagreeme
Okay, yes, those are all valid places to put commas, good job. None of them are grammatically necessary.
Good point!
Interesting, anywhere I can read about grammatically necessary vs. recommended yet unnecessary commas? (Perhaps on the first search result for that question heh)
This is a decent article, at least for the most part: I actually don’t like their examples for the “Preposition of Time” stuff at all, the versions with commas are just bad writing.
But basically it just comes down to whether the sentence/clause can be parsed unambiguously without the commas. There is no syntactical difference between “I as a German asked…” and “I, as a German, asked…”. It’s entirely a style choice.
I could use german grammar to set the commas, but then I would have probably 10 to many for English grammar. So I tend to use less in English.
Comma rules in German are logical and follow set rules. When I asked my English teacher about comma rules in English, she said she’s not teaching them cause they’re too complicated.
When I asked my English teacher during my foreign exchange year in the US, she basically said the same.
When I asked my English teacher during my foreign exchange year in the US, she basically said the same.
CatoblepasAs a native English speaker, I barely understand comma rules either. The only person I know that I would expect to always get commas right has a Master’s degree in English. The extremely oversimplified rule I was taught as a young child was to add a comma anywhere you would naturally pause while speaking. Doesn’t always work, but it works well enough.
Chloé 🥕Good thing then that Israeli politicians haven’t been on record saying that Gaza needs to be “wiped from the face of the Earth”!
‘Wipe Gaza off the face of the earth’: The statements made by Israeli politicians on which South Africa supports its genocide case
Israeli ministers and members of parliament have made declarations dehumanizing or advocating, directly or indirectly, for the killing of Palestinian civilians. They are listed in the lawsuit filed with the United Nations International Court of Justice as showing ‘incitement to genocide’
Except that basically all Israeli politicians have made statements saying they have genocidal intentions.
The charge document includes quotes of expression of genocidal intent of the following state officials:
- Prime Minister of Israel
- President of Israel
- Israeli Minister of Defence
- Israeli Minister for National Security
- Israeli Minister of Energy and Infrastructure
- Israeli Minister of Finance
- Israeli Minister of Heritage
- Israeli Minister of Agriculture
- Deputy Speaker of the Knesset and Member of the Foreign Affairs and Security
Committee - Israeli Army Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (‘COGAT’)
- Israeli Army Reservist Major General, former Head of the Israeli National Security
Council, and adviser to the Defence Minister
You can read the actual quotes in the application document in chapter D.
Yeah, genocide often requires intent. So I guess this could be more of a massacre than a genocide.
But there’s quite a few different definitions, some are more lax.
Except for all the politicians, from shutzstaffel commanders to the (Hitler apologist) PM’s PR guy saying exactly this, using words like cexterminate’ ‘wipe from the earth’ ‘every last one’ and many individual storm troopers posting on their social media, or even their ‘civilians’.
I really doubt their aim with this thing is to destroy all the Palestinians, but if you can provide those quotes that show that that’s their stated aim then I’d definitely consider this a genocide.
How many do you need?
I was thinking the ones in the above reply but it doesn’t have to be very many at all if it’s the top people saying it. PM, DM, generals (that sort of people) saying their goals are extermination or expulsion of Palestinians seems like it’d make the case pretty clear.
How many. Give me a number.
Uhh, let’s say five? Is that alright?
Here’s one article from January with more than five incidents, though only four from separate named top level sources. These aren’t ambiguous or off record; these are what south Africa’s lawyers are taking to the UN world court. (Prime minister, deputy head of parliament/head of dominant party, defense minister, ‘heritage minister’ whatever that is) huffpost.com/…/israel-rhetoric-palestinians-south…
Heres another article from about the same time about the same thing, also cites a 5th top level named source (adding finance minister) apnews.com/…/israel-palestinians-south-africa-gen…
So that’s five (more? Didn’t scroll down farther in AP article) cabinetish level genocidal shit geysers in literally the first two search results.
And as a fun bonus, here’s the kinds of songs they have their children sing: palestinechronicle.com/we-will-annihilate-everyon…
Taking a loooooooong-ass shower now, so sorry about slow reply.
The thing about fascism is: every accusation is a confession. Every last one. I know, you’re thinking the dumb version of ‘he who fights monsters’ (having never read Nietzsche), but that was Hitlers entire strategy with ‘the big lie’; to turn his storm troopers into exactly the thing he accused his victims of being, and then use shit libs like you as his defense. And it worked for a really fun king long time. Read a book (though maybe not his. Plenty of scholars of fascism out there can explain it better than i!) .
They aren’t human. They weren’t born this way, and denying that is denying their autonomy. They’ve said they won’t stop, short of being killed, or that ‘nothing will stop us’. There is one way to stop this genocide, and if you didn’t care about saving the Palestinian people, you’re a fucking bad faith liar for saying there is anything disallowed to do to kapostanis. They need to die. Their ‘culture’ (which is literally just atrocities and shit they pillaged. Bet you can’t even get a decent bagel or pastrami sandwich over there)
And lol, using grammar or immediate ‘fuck wrong button’ edits to pretend I said totally different shit
“You must remember what Amalek has done to you.” Amalekites were persecutors of the biblical Israelites, and a biblical commandment says they must be destroyed.
Two days after the Hamas attack, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said Israel was “fighting human animals,” in announcing a complete siege on Gaza.
I don’t think those show the sort of genocidal intent we discussed it, with more obvious extermination comments.
Deputy Knesset speaker Nissim Vaturi from the ruling Likud party wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Israelis had one common goal, “erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth.” Israeli Heritage Minister Amichay Eliyahu, from the far-right Jewish Power party, suggested that Israel drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza and said there were “no uninvolved civilians” in the territory.
The first comment from here is much clearer.
Defending Israel in court, lawyer Malcolm Shaw said the remarks were made mostly by officials with little role in determining Israeli policy, calling them “random quotes” that were misleading and had been in some cases repudiated by Netanyahu.
I think that might be true for some, though deputy speaker from the ruling party seems like someone who’d have a role.
Off topic, but the two articles are remarkably similar. Some stuff (not meaning quotes) are word for word same and the same structure and everything is the same. Journalists being lazy, I guess.
They aren’t human. They weren’t born this way, and denying that is denying their autonomy. They’ve said they won’t stop, short of being killed, or that ‘nothing will stop us’. There is one way to stop this genocide, and if you didn’t care about saving the Palestinian people, you’re a fucking bad faith liar for saying there is anything disallowed to do to kapostanis. They need to die. Their ‘culture’ (which is literally just atrocities and shit they pillaged. Bet you can’t even get a decent bagel or pastrami sandwich over there)
I don’t know if you are saying that about Israelis or talking about or lampooning the rhetoric the Israelis use about Palestinians.
And lol, using grammar or immediate ‘fuck wrong button’ edits to pretend I said totally different shit
I was talking about how you added a lot to your comment. First the comment was just “How many. Give me a number.”, then you added the rest. That’s what I meant.
Youre not responding to any if the other examples. There are at least five in those two links.
I thought the other examples was some soldiers and a journalist, a mention of “military officials and two Israeli pop singers are also cited by South Africa for making inflammatory comments” (didn’t include the comments) so not the top level stuff we discussed about? The goalposts have always been the same and you even wanted a specific number for it, five top level comments talking about extermination etc.
It would be a lot easier if you quoted the parts you specifically refer to, so there would be no room for me to miss them. A lot clearer that way.
Genocidal fucking coward.
Wat. I’m just disagreeing with you online, it doesn’t seem serious enough to call me genocidal because of that, even if you are very passionate about the topic.
I listed the officials cited. At least five cabinet level or high up parliament ghouls.
I listed the officials cited
If you mean this: “(Prime minister, deputy head of parliament/head of dominant party, defense minister, ‘heritage minister’ whatever that is)” then yeah I saw that, but didn’t really think out of them there were the sort of outright genocidal comments from top decision makers other than maybe deputy speaker. For “heritage minister”, I don’t know how influential role that is and it was a smaller part so maybe?
So unless I’m mistaken I did respond to them all. I didn’t respond to the lower level comments (soldiers, a journalist, so on) because I didn’t think that’s what you meant anyway. This sort of confusion is why I was hoping you’d quote what was said and then write who said it. It’s a bit of effort but would make it a lot clearer and make sure we’re talking about the same thing.
By defending and denying their genocide, in the face of overwhelming evidence, after moving hoal posts, you are a part of it.
I just don’t think it fits the mentioned definition, that’s all. That’s not defending the action at all. I don’t know about overwhelming evidence, I might’ve missed something crucial but what I did interact with didn’t seem convincing in the way I was hoping. As for goalposts, they’ve stayed the same. You helped set up some of those goalposts, so it’s strange you’d think they’ve moved.
How the fuck can you live with yourself? Like, how do you wake up, think any of the awful shit that how’s through your head, and not immediately rush to a gun store and blow your brains out? I want to see down this abyss. If you have enough self awareness to shed any light on it.
I’m guessing that’s your eloquent way of saying that you are done discussing the actual topic.
You never started dear. And I’m going to assume that’s a no on the self awareness.
How the fuck can you live with yourself? Like, how do you wake up, think any of the awful shit that how’s through your head, and not immediately rush to a gun store and blow your brains out? I want to see down this abyss. If you have enough self awareness to shed any light on it.
You wrote that. Not only is it not talking about the actual topic, I’m also pretty sure it’s straight up against the sub and instance rules. Then again, you also wrote
If Theres ever a genocide against a group I know includes you,I’m going to laugh at it so hard.
Yeah I’m not gonna look totally cracked and it’s gonna be all your fault, I hope it occurs to you to feel bad about making me laugh at such an inappropriate time while you’re starving to death, because it was not a nice thing to do.
If you don’t have any actual arguments or wish to discuss, it’s easier to just say so.
Dude youre literally a genocide denier.
We’re discussing if the actions of Israel fit the definition.
I don’t see your edit earlier. Taking what shit out of context?
Flying SquidDon’t tell people to self-harm.
Okay yeah that wasn’t my finest statement.
Teeeeensy nitpick: there are two definitions of genocide that have ever mattered. Two. Not many. Two.
Lemkins original, much much broader, definition, And the one you’re familiar with, adopted by the UN because like everyone on the permanent security council thing had an interest in the definition being a little more narrow. Under which the way the Palestinian people are being exterminated absolutely counts.
Interestingly, by lemkin’s broader definition, making the shutzstaffel stop killing Palestinians might constitute a genocide of the kapostanis; it would be destroying every trace of their culture, and the means of its reproduction.
I didn’t say there were plenty “that have ever mattered” so it’s not really a nitpick towards me.
I’m sure your high school had its own? Doesn’t count.
There are plenty of abbreviations. But those aren’t separate content; just condensed versions.
There are two.
Well that’s certainly a view.
If Theres ever a genocide against a group I know includes you,I’m going to laugh at it so hard.
Which is probably going to get me kicked out of a lot of ‘stop the genocide’ stuff.