C is okay but why are we not allowed to put the safety on and safely remove all of the ammunition.

The general risk assessment is that medical personal don’t know as much about firearms as Law enforcement - and LEOs don’t know much. Besides, you generally have other things to do that are more important than causing a negligent discharge in the ER.

I’m confident that, maybe with 5min instructional time from a gun guy (or gal, women are the fastest growing group of gun owners today), anyone with a phd could be taught “push button, remove mag, rack slide” and “push button, swing cylinder, push ejector rod out.”

They really aren’t as hard to learn to use safely as Alec Baldwin would have you believe. Shooting accurately is another matter but simply being safe is as easy as learning 4 rules and a basic knowledge of how common firearms function.

Edit: here, I’ll link a video where for three easy payments of $29.99 in one whole minute and 38 seconds you too can learn how to clear semi auto handguns (the most common type of gun by a mile) safely like a pro!

You see how easy this is? A surgeon should be competent enough to learn how to do this.

You would think that. But the number of trained soldiers who have been punished for a negligent discharge while clearing their weapon would say otherwise. Also, you have to assume everyone employed at that ER is at the end of a 48 hour double shift where every attempt to sleep was interrupted less than an hour later.

Idk man I can’t sit here and claim to be so ridiculously intelligent I can learn how to cycle a firearm faster than a literal surgeon. I mean, when I learned I was a pizza delivery man. I may have a different job now, but if a pizza man can learn it I’d hope a surgeon could pick it up pretty quick, “it isn’t brain surgery.”

The learning isn’t the problem. The exhaustion is. If people who are highly trained with firearms cannot reliably clear them while exhausted then nobody can. And the medical industry insists on seriously overworking staff.

If you’re too exhausted to clear a gun, you’re too exhausted to surgery me. Let the doc go home.

That’s not how capitalism works.

“Hey boss I’m tired as shit, on hour 9 of my shift. I gotta take off, before I cost us a shitload of money in a malpractice suit because I fell asleep in Mr. Wallace’s chest cavity.”

All about how you frame it.

“If you leave you’re fired. If you get sued it’s on you and your malpractice insurance. I got five more residents who would knife each other for your job because they’re working even worse hours. I don’t care how you get it done, just get it done.”

Yes doctors have left practice because of this, yes we do have an addiction problem in the medical field, yes the for-profit system has no interest in reforming this unless the system just starts to fail entirely. Because the way it’s setup is more profitable for them.

To the point of the thread. The world is what it is and it’s far safer for the protocol to be gently placing the gun in a bin with a locked cover. When the world changes then we can talk about training on a higher level than failsafe.