WilshireTeacher faces termination after calling in sick for 2 days to attend a concert in Nashville, district says
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BossDjThis is the best thing I’ve seen today. Thank you
Strangely applicable
And they wonder why it is hard to find teachers.
henfredemarsYou guys are getting sick time?
EdibleFriendWhat concert tho
CrackhappyJonny Cash and the Deadites I assume.
🇰 🌀 🇱 🌀 🇳 🇦 🇸 🇰 🇦 🇵 🇮If it was 2 days in Nashville, I want to believe it was for BTBAM’s 2-day/2-part concert “Colors II Experience” on March 26 and 27 at Basement East.
Fuck, I’d bail on work for 2 days to see BTBAM like that. I never got to see colors live.
Gonna be that guy, but…. Good. I’d have fired her too.
Nah, fuck that. If she had sick days they are hers to decide how to use em.
Uhh, no. Sick days are for when you’re sick. Annual leave is for when you do stuff like this.
Christ, this platform beggars belief sometimes.
Are they separate for her? Does unused sick time get paid out like leave time if unused? Or do they have unlimited sick time?
93maddie94I my experience with teaching in the U.S. sick days do get paid out at retirement.
Teachers typically get 10 sick days a year and 3 personal days. The sick days stack but personal days turn to sick days after you have 5 banked.
Pandantic [they/them]My personal days disappear if unused.
Sick days are part of your compensation package. They are yours to do whatever the fuck you want with. There’s a reason most companies don’t call them sick days anymore.
That is factually incorrect.
Can you bring some of these facts?
I know nothing about US workers law, only that they get like 12 days off per year, and working days are like 10+ hrs
The fact they’re called sick days, and not leave days, should be a hint.
Ah - so so there’s no rules or laws that apply, it’s all based on what it’s called. I never understood how US functions but I’m getting a better feel now. Thank you
It’s more evidence than you’ve provided.
Sorry - didn’t know I was talking to a 12 year old. My mom is stronger than yours
In use them as I’m sick ~of my companies bullshit~ days
This would probably work if you were smart enough to stay home.
Teachers in the US generally don’t have “annual leave”.
Sentient LoomPeople are treating you like an asshole for your heartlessness. But they’re not giving you enough credit for also being an idiot.
Really? Feel free to prove me wrong.
Why you’re the cunt
No source, just anger. Cool.
SquishyPandaDevShe wouldn’t have to have used sick days if this God damn country had basic worker rights and gave people vacation time. Oh and a side note, many companies will 100% fire you if you use your vacation days. Fuck the American work environment
No argument about that one, the way the states treats workers is shocking.
As someone who works in an “at will” state, I agree. This absolutely happens.
SaltySalamanderHere's hoping you're not, and never will be, anyone's boss.
Right… firing someone for calling in sick so she can go to a concert when her job is teaching children- and they’re the bad guys.
There’s vacation days for that shit. She’s irresponsible and shouldn’t be a teacher.
You need to calm down.
I can see you’ve never been a grossly underpaid teacher.
There are politicians responsible of thousands of deaths per year, and you focus on a teacher who is entitled to her sick days.
Fuck off.
If I were a teacher, I’d know not to abandon my job to see a concert. If the job sucks so bad, don’t take it when it’s offered. But if you do take it, don’t try and justify bailing on it because you are underpaid.
You know all about her from this rage bait story? Enough to end her career? You’re a fraud.
Teachers don’t have vacation days.
They get 10 sick days per year.
They get 3 personal days.
It’s very possible the only leave she had were sick days.
Then don’t be a teacher. She knew the situation.
And replace her with whom?
Mental health maintenance is a valid reason to use sick leave, and getting out of town to have some fun is exactly what people need from time to time. Her union should hire her a good lawyer to tell the district to pound sand.
Problem is, no one admits that and lies about it. So here we are.
The issue in this case is that if was planned with some time in advanced and notified the same day/day before.
If a coworker has any kind of emergency (family, health, mental) and takes the day off, I will sympathize, regardless of how that impacts me. If it’s planned but not communicated not so much.
Of course, I live in a country with 22+ paid days off + “unlimited” sick days and I in my role we usually are flexible with the time off. With very different conditions that might be more understandable.
When you live in a country where your vacation requests can be denied arbitrarily you might be tempted to just say ‘fuck em’ and let them know it’s not optional the day before you skip work.
As an educator, I’m shocked … that they have the backup subs and/or a replacement teacher to justify losing a teacher over this.
it’s likely that theres a lot more to the story
Isn’t there a never-ending supply of substitute teachers who are desperate for a full time job? That’s what I hear from teachers in Canada.
Not so much in the US. At least in my state, they don’t have enough subs and have to double up classes when a teacher is sick.
Same, to the extent we have a google form to fill out when we cover on or prep for compensation.
Where I work in the US midwest, we are lucky if we get coverage when we call out sick and are understaffed in all departments teacher-level and below payscale-wise (para, custodial, transportation, etc.). But m sure it’s different depending on the location, but that’s my experience.
Omg I wish that were true! We can’t get decent (or any) subs like 95% of the time. It used to be that you could sub with a bachelor’s degree and a substitute certificate or any teaching license. Now, we’re so desperate that it’s basically any adult who can pass a background check. Most of the time, teachers just ended up skipping their prep time to cover the missing teacher’s class.
Start advertising in New Brunswick and Ontario (Canada) because there are many teachers in years-long queues waiting to finally land an actual job.
Yeah, but Canadians don’t want to work as a teacher in the US. Like, it would be a bad idea for y’all because you would lose so much. We treat our teachers far worse. You’d get crappier pay, be treated like dirt by a large chunk of the populace, run the ever-increasing chance of getting shot on the job, and have to start paying health insurance premiums out of you light paycheck.
Agreed. I guess this also explains why nobody wants to work as a teacher in the USA.
In America, we act first, and deny the responsibility to acknowledge consequences.
I mean, that’s what happens when you pull a sickie to go to a concert.
No. Not really.
Sick time is personal time.
Yeah, no.