1 in 5 Americans think violence may solve U.S. divisions, poll finds

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1 in 5 Americans think violence may solve U.S. divisions, poll finds - Lemmy.World

They’re going to force us to fight them again, aren’t they.
I’ve been saying it for years, war is coming. Best get prepared

When somebody tells you who they are it’s best you believe them.

They’ve been telling us who they are for decades, and who they are is the unburied remnant of the Confederacy coming back for round 2, because Grant didn’t let Sherman finish the job.

And they already have all the guns they need. This is why gun ownership is growing fastest among Black people, Latinos, and Trans people. I remember this when any gun control ideas come up, because anything you’re trying to ban is already in the hands of most of the fascists. I’m fine with gun control, but not poorly implimented restrictions that mostly effect the populations trying to defend themselves.
I tell all of my liberal friends that it doesn't matter whether they approve of the practice or not. Own guns or don't, idc, but you better take some classes in how to use them.
In a country with more guns that people refusing to learn how they work is irresponsible. Knowing how they work and gun safety, and how to make a gun safe, is necessery otherwise in any situation with guns you have all the context that deer has on an interstate. We can do better we can learn and give ourselves the information necessary to make the best available decision.
absolutely, now if only a certain sect of the population, who has a significant distaste towards liberals, would actually fucking educate them about this shit, because it’s literally a right governed by our fucking constitution, and i better not catch you parroting this shit as a constitutional right, while ACTIVELY BREAKING IT.
I’m not against liberals picking up a few guns and gun related skills, but the wars of the present and near future will be fought with drones.
Perhaps, but there is no replacement for boots on the ground.

since when did gun loving republicans get war drones? I don’t remember this part of british history.

I thought they were just going to roleplay as the british military after we said “yo we out dawg”

For some, the war already started.
12% of dems and 28% of republicans… that says something

To be fair, the question was “do you think violence is necessary for the US to get back on track

Make America Great Again is the Republican line, so of course the poll is going to lean this way.

Congrats. That’s probably the dumbest attempt to grasp at straws I’ve seen all day.
I’m looking at what the polling question actually is. Liberals, kinda by definition, don’t want the country to “get back on track” or return to a period of former greatness.
I would agree we’re pretty far off the track. Remember when the biggest scandals were presidential blowies and tan suits?

How about Watergate? There have always been scandals.

Or on another note, how about when presidential blowies were a scandal, gay people couldn’t even get married? The appeal to an idealized past is a conservative thing.

I’m not saying turn back the clock, I just want politics to stop being so… I mean marjorie taylor greene exists, for fucks sake.

The liberals I know think it’s pretty off track. Specifically, it fell off the rails when Trump got elected.

The track switch probably was thrown back in the 2000 election. We all hoped President Obama was gonna get us back on track.

MAGA wants to revert the us to some racist 1950s version. Violence is basically required to achieve that vision.

Liberals want to put the US back on track to equality, human rights and a secure future (see SCOTUS, for example of how off track the US is). We just don’t think violence is a good way to do take.

I guess I wasn’t thinking about it that way, that “on track” could be that Democrats are imagining there was a time when liberal ideals were being actively worked towards. I don’t think that’s really true, but I now see that someone could think that way.

So, are you a foreign operative, fascist or tankie?

There’s no way educated native English speakers could be as far off in either reading comprehension, or understanding of US politics, as you are.

Half these comments read like the Reddit PsyOps campaigns of 2016, and the vote counts indicate the same.

lmao you’re the one who doesn’t understand how language is used to manipulate polling and headlines

So if the questions had been “do you think violence is necessary for hope and change” more dems would have said ‘yes’?

lol

Pretty clear the operative phrase was do you think violence is necessary.

I would have said yes to “is violence necessary” because in some situations it is, but I would have not even been able to answer the question as asked, or said no, because I don’t agree with what they are saying violence is necessary for. The context is important, and flavored how people answered the question.

My comment was for people who understand that polling can be biased based on how you word the question.

“Do you think violence is necessary” is how the poll is being reported on, but that is not what was asked.

You think this phrasing was biased against republicans. I offered an equivalent phrasing that would be similarly biased against dems.

Do you think more dems would have responded positively to political violence if it was just phrased a little differently?

Who knows! Maybe?
lol- I think you know.
Cool!
What’s another phrasings that you think would be equivalently biased against dems?

I’m genuinely unsure of what you mean by “against” here-- are you implying the original phrasing biased Republican answers towards or against violence, and do you consider that to be a good or bad thing?

To answer your question though, I believe phrases that could influence Democrats to vote yes could be “Do you think violence is necessary to combat hatred” or as was suggested earlier “Do you think violence is necessary for hope and change”

You can’t think of anything?
Lol, why even make a poll? next time we have a question we can ask you

They did make a poll and it turns out Republicans are more into political violence- whoda thunkit?

But by all means tell me how the responses were biased by the phrase ‘back on track’ ;)

Hm ackschually, republicans are not necessarily into political violence per sé, they are really into bootlicking the rich at all costs
January 6th kinda proved they love doing one in service of the other.
Unironically yeah it changes the answers a LOT. There are entire sections of sociology dealing with much smaller polling biases.
What’s another phrasing that you think would be equivalently biased against dems?

I’m genuinely unsure of what you mean by “against” here-- are you implying the original phrasing biased Republican answers towards or against violence, and do you consider that to be a good or bad thing?

To answer your question though, I believe phrases that could influence Democrats to vote yes could be “Do you think violence is necessary to combat hatred” or as was suggested earlier “Do you think violence is necessary for hope and change”. Basically anything that ties violence to their desired values or outcomes.

I’m genuinely unsure of what you mean by “against” here-- are you implying the original phrasing biased Republican answers towards or against violence, and do you consider that to be a good or bad thing?

Maybe read back up the chain if you’re this lost.

or as was suggested earlier “Do you think violence is necessary for hope and change”. Basically anything that ties violence to their desired values or outcomes.

I’d love to see that poll ;)

Maybe read back up the chain if you’re this lost.

Fuck off

I’d love to see that poll ;)

If I make one I’ll send it in this community and you’ll get to see me proven right. Unfortunately you’ll be blocked so I won’t see your response.

lol- sorry you got triggered.
It’s built into the slogan. “The grass is always greener” doesn’t have the same ring to it.
That’s OK, I look good in Blue.

Red vs Blue

Funny how life keeps coming back to this…

What a stupid question.

Undoubtedly, violence would solve America’s divisions- but is it the best way to do so? The real questions are, how long would that take, who would ultimately be the losers, and would it even be “America” when it all ends?

violence

The favorite action of the, Make America Go Away, crowd.

Spreading Managed Democracy, one liberation round at a time!
The Congressional Republicans and their Fox News swallowing ilk, who have all decided they love Russia so much, should simply move there.
How would it solve divisions? Wouldn’t it just heighten them?
It worked during the French Revolution, and now they have some of the strongest labor rights in the world.
That’s because commoners were united against elites. Roughly half of us are convinced the elites would love to give the rest of us more of their wealth if only big daddy government would relax those pesky taxes and regulations. Oh, and that every bad thing that happens is because we don’t pray in schools.
i think it’s more like roughly 10% believe that because they’re stupid. Roughly 15-20% believe that they will be rich:tm: and the rest don’t care or agree.
There has been quite some history between the revolution and the current labor rights… specifically five changes in political system including four republics and two empires. The first republic was probably less ideal than you imagine.
You kill all of “them” and that leaves just “us”.

Basically, one side believes that they should be allowed to kill anyone who disagrees with them, and the other side believes in the “excise the tumor” approach (use force now to remove the militant extremists and fascists to prevent their proganda from radicalizing more people and making the problem worse).

Both would technically be correct just by reducing the population of one side or the other, I guess. Can’t disagree if you’re dead.

That’s not the question, the question was “Would you agree that force may be needed to course-correct” rather than “could it solve division”.
Makes sense, half the comments here seem to be about cutting people’s heads off and stuff
I mean… If you got rid of one side of a division, there’s no more division so they’re not wrong. It’s just not a cool way to solve the problem.

I’m not advocating for violence against the people but I do feel hanging some supreme Court justices would do us all some good. There are multiple justices taking bribes and telling us they have the legal right to do so. It’s past time to remind these people who they actually work for… And maybe we hang some of the people bribing them to get the point across?

I don’t like capital punishment but these people are actively destroying our democracy and claiming to be doing it legally(which is a lie). This kind of threat needs to be dealt with swiftly and brutally.

There are multiple justices taking bribes and telling us they have the legal right to do so

is this true?