markus99Simple as
I’d rather have fun and play the game
Me too. And running Windows is no fun.
shrugalBut M$ likes to play games with you!
Is Windows bad? Why is it not fun? Can you give a few reasons? I would like to try Linux.
OhaAi crap, bloatware, advertisements, costs a lot, tracking, almost no customizability, less stable, …
AI can be disabled or removed from the installation file.
Bloatware can be uninstalled manually/Winget/Chris Titus Tech Tools etc (You won’t have all these if you install English International)
I never get Ads on Windows
An OEM Licence is dirt cheap, and you don’t even need it
Tracking can be disabled
Define customizability?
Less stable? Compared to what? I have never encountered Windows nor an Ubuntu crash unless there is some bad hardware like Memory instabilities). But I’ve had more driver crashes with Linux in modern systems (Both AMD and NVIDIA).
“Name one reason, I would like to try Linux.”
“[Names some reasons]”
“[Argues forever]”
People like you are so irritating. What’s the point of doing this? If you wanted to argue about it then why lie to lure people into responding?
It’s Linux, fuck’s sake, if you want to argue about it just make a top level post writing anything at all about Windows or any distro and you’ll have plenty of takers.
Argument was not the plan. Whenever someone speaks for Windows, it’s an argument. Whenever someone speaks for Linux, it’s a fact. Lemmy Logic. Had the question be Why is Linux Bad? I could have listed Driver Incompatibility with modern hardware. The reply will be it’s the Manufacturer’s fault- Somehow this is a more acceptable reply than just uninstalling some bloatware.
If you find random people on the internet talking about pros and cons of an Operating System irritating, you have deeper problems to attend to.
Look at how mad you are on Microsoft’s behalf. So according to yourself, you have deep problems to attend to. Go get some help, then, good luck.
I think he perfectly described the lemmy linux community. Windows is not that bad like the people here says. It just takes some time after installation to uninstall the ms crap you dont want. Windows have the best compatibility with the software and hardware. It is a fact.
He’s pretending he doesn’t want to argue so that people will respond so that he can argue. I don’t give a damn what he uses.
The two of you are in linuxmemes unhappy about how Lemmy linux users are being unfair to Windows. Good luck with that, I guess?
You don’t need to pretend to want a genuine discussion “oh I do want to try Linux so much” to get an argument. Just be direct, plenty of people will oblige you. You’re doing fine, BTW, your position is clear, nobody responding to you about OSes will get anything they weren’t expecting.
So you have finally agreed that people at lemmy, esp. linux memes would compromise on logic and facts to glorify linux to any extent and talk trash on Windows. Although these Linux fanboys pretend Windows is objectively worse, when asked reasons start blaming windows issues which have easy fixes. Also, every single time I’ve had a problem with Linux, the replies are:
If you find random people on the internet talking about pros and cons of an Operating System irritating, you have deeper problems to attend to.
Go find some help.
People like you are so irritating
I never claimed anything is irritating. Just a curious mind finding it fun to intimidate fanboys and hoping to find if there’s any logic or fact backing up the fanboyism aspect. You seriously have got nothing in your hands to counter my evaluation of the Linux Memes community, that most of it is shitting on Windows for no reason, so you resort to suggesting me to get some help. The only help I ever needed from the Linux Community was to get my WiFi, HDR, Fan controller working- The answer was it’s the manufacturer’s fault, and no real solutions. So I found out the help myself- Windows. Now you need to stop finding people on the internet irritating, I guess?
You are so mad about this whole thing. Unhinged. All you want to do is argue and whine over and over and over. You’re still here trying to bait and provoke a response. Calm down and go get some help.
Hey why won’t you stop saying things like “You are irritating”, “You are so mad”, “You are whining” etc. (The same thing kids use when they’re losing an argument), and stick on the topic of Linuxmemes community shitting on Windows without sufficient logic?
You don’t belong here kid.
With your substandard level of argumentation, you belong in Instagram or Reddit.
Bring out a valid argument like an adult, or Goodbye.
Get help. Get help. Get help. (Average Linuxmemes enjoyers’ response when they can’t bring in facts to maintain credibility in a discussion. Lol & Pathetic).
“Get help.
Linux good.
Windows bad.
You are sooooo irritating.”
Ewwww. Bye kid. Got important things to do in life.
That Microsoft moved into snooping is a problem though and really bad because they have a history to work even more proactively with authorities than required by law.
Yeah, I know, every argument related to privacy is too abstract for most people. Except those who experienced life under an oppressive regime.
Name one good reason then.
All these things are mild annoyances at best that can be disabled in a couple of clicks. At least, if you are technologically inclined. Which I hope you people are
If it was something like needing an emulator just to run most software at lower framerates, or having no support for certain hardware, it would be a good reason.
Go argue with people who care about changing your opinion.
AI can be disabled or removed from the installation file. Bloatware can be uninstalled manually/Winget/Chris Titus Tech Tools etc
Ah, great. So we reached an era where a proper installation is more work with Windows than Linux. Don’t have to disable/uninstall anything on the latter (except maybe some shitty distros).
Yes it has reached that stage. But yeah I sat for days to get my fan controller and HDR to work with Zorin OS and Ubuntu before giving up (Surely the manufacturer’s fault). But yeah debloating Windows takes less than 5 minutes with tools like Chris Titus Tech.
… I had never thought about it this way. You’re totally correct though. I spend way more time fighting with my windows machine than I do my linux these days. I also just have a lot less patience fighting it because it’s always due to some dumb shit it didn’t need to be doing in the first place.
Tracking can be disabled Tracking is one of the main reasons I switched to Linux. You simply can’t know if Microsoft is tracking you, even if you turn off all of the settings. That is because it’s closed source.
Bloatware can be uninstalled manually/Winget/Chris Titus Tech Tools etc Apart from this beeing exclusive to advanced users, in my experience, after updates or at least a reinstall you would have to do it again. And that was just getting on my nerves.
I never get Ads on Windows That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen for anyone else.
Look, maybe Linux is just not for you I get that. You’ve come accustomed to Windows and are happy with how it works for you. But for some people it might be a good choice. To give an example from my own life:
I recently installed Debian 12 KDE (looks like windows) on my step dads laptop. He is not technically inclined at all mind you. And apart from setting up auto mounting his ssd, I never had to give him tech support again after that and he is very happy with it.
Go ahead try it. It’s easy to try and ere’s a bunch of selections to choose from. Go smack it into an old laptop or something.
Just expect to know how to fix things yourself with the help of the internet and a lot of games will probably still have issues on Linux.
mmmm yeah.
Say that after having to scour the internet to fix issues no one encountered before because the game doesn’t have Linux support. Not everyone has a offstream mentality of only enjoying obscure games dude.
moomoomoo309Check the list, bud. It’s far from just obscura.
Yeah I know that. But it still comes with crippling performance issues besides the compatibility issues. Not all of us have beefy systems to counterbalance that on Proton. Take a look into some of the newer releases on PC. I’m not waiting more years for games I’ve already been waiting years to get released.
Crippling is a bit extreme - have you used Proton recently?
RustmilianActually, Linux + Proton has been found to increase performance on several games than when run natively on Windows, for example Cyberpunk 2077, RDR2, etc.
Sure, there’s room for improvement, however Linux is improving every single day exponentially.
Sure, there’s room for improvement, however Linux is improving every single day exponentially.
Cyberpunk 2077 2.0 Update: Phantom Liberty | Linux VS Windows Performance Tested
OK. Enjoy your not at all obscure lootbox grift crap then. Virtually everything not running on Linux nowadays falls into that category.
I will and have been, Windows be damned. Been having a blast playing newer and great games on PC with little issues.