15 minutes at 350F is a lie.

https://lemmy.world/post/13765211

15 minutes at 350F is a lie. - Lemmy.World

I have always broken in my gloves with oil and practice. I decided to hurry this one along by using the suggested oven tip I have heard about in the past. “Oh, just put your glove in the oven!” I never believed them, because I feared it would catch fire. I thought I was wrong. My Easter was ruined today.

I don’t play, and have never tried this. But from the instructions I’m seeing online, is either microwave method or heat up the oven and then turn it off before putting the glove in.

That’s also looks like it’s melting, is it actual leather?

It might have been real leather. It smelled like it, as it burned. The online sites I read said nothing of turning off the oven. Everyone who swore by this said to put it in there at 350F for fifteen minutes.
I think you’ve been pranked.

I’ve never heard of this and I’ve got absolutely no idea if this is a real thing or if you got pranked as someone said. But assuming it’s a real thing, I can think of two possible explanations why it went so badly for you:

First option, you used a toaster oven instead of a regular oven. The surfaces closest to the heating elements in this case get exposed to a lot more heat than the rest of what’s in the oven. If the heating element is exposed, it’s a toaster oven.

Second option, your oven’s temperature knob isn’t calibrated well enough so it got way hotter than it needs to be. Honestly I’ve got no idea how well these are usually calibrated. I have the exact same model toaster oven as my parents and theirs gets way hotter for the same knob position. But it’s a cheapo brand (I can barely bring myself to call it a brand) so I hope it’s better in the broader market, and maybe proper ovens are better calibrated than microwave-sized toaster ovens.

On second look, the burn marks are obviously only on the top surface so I’m pretty convinced you used a toaster oven. The difference is like standing in direct sunlight vs in the shade. When you’re in the shade the only thing heating you is the air, when you’re in direct sunlight the sunlight itself is heating you. You can also feel a similar effect when sitting around a fire - your skin facing in the direction of the fire gets toasted while the rest of you, or parts of you that are blocked from it, are cooler.

TL;DR you toasted your mitt

It does look like a toaster oven did it, but it was just a regular oven. I set it on the bars and it actually began melting between them.
Leather doesn’t melt. You put a vinyl glove in an oven.
It must be. The tag said leather, but it lied.

The tag does not say the glove is made of leather, that’s simply the Franklin “leather series”, a meaningless marketing term meant to trick people.

The Franklin page clearly states those gloves are made. of “synthetic leather”, e. g. Polyurethane, Vinyl etc.:

franklinsports.com/field-masterr-tan-series-baseb…

Plus, the synthetic leather comes with a pre-formed pocket which is designed to break in exactly to your liking quickly and easily.

EASY BREAK IN: The soft synthetic leather material is lightweight and responsive […]

You put a plastic glove in your oven at 350. By the way, depending on the material, in particular when talking about Vinyl, burning it may release incredibly toxic fumes, although that mostly applies to PVC. Depending on the details, I’d still considered that oven ruined though, at least for food.

I get that this sucks in more ways than one, but how the heck did you not actually check the complete material composition… almost all modern items are a mix of different materials anyway.

The tag does not say the glove is made of leather, that’s simply the Franklin “leather series”, a meaningless marketing term meant to trick people.

Ugh, are there no consumer protection laws against this shit? Or just no enforcement?

Not really laws, at least in the US. So long as they don’t claim it’s made of things it isn’t, they can say “well the packaging clearly states it’s not real, actual leather”.

IMHO this is misleading/false marketing. In the food market this would never fly, at least not in most western countries. In my country you can’t even call almond milk almond milk because it’s technically not milk, even though there’s nothing misleading about it… So why wouldn’t the same apply to non-food products?

I honestly don’t know if there’s laws against it outside of food in my country, and I suspect there’s little to no enforcement even if there are laws… But saying LEATHER GLOVE ~by the way it’s synthetic leather~ is exactly the sort of thing laws should protect against.

There are protected terms in non food too, but just leather isn’t one. Genuine leather, full-grain leather, top grain leather, and bonded leather are protected.
Also who would believe they got an all leather glove for $20
I promise you full size ovens can have exposed heat elements.
Sure. Did I get the terminology wrong? In either case the exposed heating element toasts the contents, rather than just baking them, which may be undesirable depending on what you’re making. The size of the oven doesn’t matter.
Betting it’s not leather. Leather doesn’t melt. It will burn, but never liquify. It clearly appears that the outer layer liquified. Also this screams prank to me, but good quality, oiled leather should also hold up ok to 350 for 15 mins.
And also it’s like 200°, gloves wrapped in foil, and constant checking. At least for waxing gloves for ski resort employees.
What even is the thought process behind why this would ever work anyway? Would heat make the leather a bit more pliable or something?
It softens it. I put olive oil on it first, as many sites suggested, and other players have suggested. I used to break in my gloves with throwing after oiling them. I would also leave my gloves in a hot car to soften in the heat, with a ball inside of them. I am so mad right now. Today was ruined. I didn’t get to watch Easter mass online because of time zones, I missed watching (in person) my kids open Easter baskets I made, and then my damn glove caught fire. God, why?

Your glove caught fire because you put it in a 350 degree oven for 15 minutes, when leather will readily burn at 210 degrees. I don’t know how other people are pulling it off, as googling around pulls up the same instructions you apparently followed.

I never believed them, because I feared it would catch fire.

Seems like you knew better, which must make this more frustrating. Nothing stings quite like a self-inflicted wound.

As for the Easter stuff, that’s really all about your personal situation and your belief system.

Y tho
Because I am used to my soft, leather, Mizuno, Fastpitch glove that I had for years, and now it’s gone. I was left looking at this cheap, new, Rawlings glove, wondering how I was going to break it in by next week.
Upvoted because I feel like you already caught enough shit for a simple mistake.
Yeah, I scored 97th percentile on the ASVAB, had a 4.2 GPA leaving high school, and had a federal scholarship in a STEM field. Right now I’m listening to an elderly relative call me stupid for trying to quickly condition this glove in the oven. An elderly relative that failed all of his grade school math courses, beat me as a child, and do worse things to me as a child/teen (that I can’t even say online). Thanks for the upvote.
Don’t let the bastards grind you down.
This doesn’t seem the time for bragging.
I’m not bragging. I’m just trying to verify that I’m not some idiot while my relative treats me like crap for burning a cheap glove. Everyone always thinks I’m bragging. You should hear the way “dad” discusses me. No one brags on me, so trust me, I never learned to brag.
Everyone’s an idiot sometimes.
I mean why tell him though if you knew he was just gonna talk shit? What I’m seeing here is a lot of decisions based on impulse, armchair diagnosis is mild ADHD lmao. either way, grab a cold one or any other vice you have, put on a comfort TV show, call this day a lemon and continue on, sorry your day sucked my man

Already been evaluated. Not ADHD. It wasn’t an impulse decisions. Major league players advise using the oven method, and even the microwave:

www.espn.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=caple_ji…

I also don’t drink beer.

Major league advice on how best to break in a new baseball glove - ESPN

Forget the old-school methods. Do it like a big leaguer: Nuke, bake or soak that mitt.

ESPN
Chill man its just a joke, but seriously, hanging around in the thread and ruminating isn’t gonna do you any good, shit happened, best try and move on
Why is this “relative” allowed within 15 feet of your property. If you need someone to “take care” of them, I can bring my own bat. We can take turns pitching their balls with your new glove.
It’s tempting. I feel the same way. Legally, though, it would make my day if the sheriff’s department would just bring cadaver dogs to his house and have them sniff along the north west side of the house. That’s all it would take, and then he’d be exposed for so much past abuse. I don’t even want to share all of the details until they dig and find the evidence. I’ve been angry, I’ve been sad, I’ve been just void of any feeling towards him; all of this over the course of 35 years. I they would just dig after having cadaver dogs sniff this place, I wouldn’t even need words to explain all of the past abuse. I would be financially screwed over and in need of new housing arrangements. It would probably bankrupt me in legal fees to explain all of what has happened. Despite all of this, it would be worth it.
If there’s evidence like you’re suggesting, the police department should have an anonymous tip line that you can call. And no legal fees required if it’s a criminal case, the police are the ones in court.
Oh, I told them. I filed an online report. I also filed a federal tip online.
I felt bad for you in this post, but now you’re sounding kind of like an asshole. You can have technically good stats on paper but it doesn’t mean you are immune to doing something stupid. I also had really good stats in school, but I am of perfectly average intelligence. It doesn’t make me any better than anyone else and it doesn’t make me immune to stupidity. You did something stupid. I’m sorry, but it’s true. Accept it and move past it.
Yeah, I followed advice that was on a sports website, as well as stated in an ESPN interview. I guess you think you’re above everyone else to the point where you can judge someone’s actions as stupid. If you had pretty good stats in school, that most likely would include your SAT, ACT, and maybe an ASVAB. If you scored well on those tests, you aren’t of average intelligence. It’s the “cool” trend to snub academia, and it’s getting on my nerves. When adults shrug off academic success and even snub it, the next generation views it as unimportant. They even see it as “uncool” to be academically successful. All of those posts containing store front signs that say, “closed because we can’t take cards and our employees don’t know enough math to make change”, aren’t really a joke. It’s sad. Yeah, go ahead and put me down. I hear degrading comments every day. If stating my achievements bothers you, then it says more about you than it does about me.
I didn’t know anything about this, but was curious and looked it up. Most methods say to turn off the oven before you put it in, some say a lower temp. I found one result that said 350 for 15 minutes, but it said to watch it closely the whole time. I don’t think your glove would have burned if you were watching it, things just don’t burn so fast that you can’t catch them before they turn black. I don’t know if warming up a glove helps it, but it does seem like you didn’t follow the instructions properly, and after cross referencing should have done the oven off method.

I wouldn’t trust any oven based methodology because most have ancient barely functional electronics. Like the temperature control circuit could be orders of magnitude better for a total BOM cost of ~$1-$2, but they ship with absolute garbage instead. The overshoot, undershoot, and relative average are all wildly random. Every model and likely every unit are vastly different. Every unit I have taken apart is the same turd junk like electronics in a different dress.

That doesn’t help now. Sorry for the bad day.

Be careful putting your balls in that thing! 👀
It’s supposed to be 350 minutes at 15f
LOL below freezing for 6 hours
That’ll break anyone
Looks like it was too close to the heating element/flame

Olive oil, baseball, heavy rubber bands.

Treat the palm and heel of the glove with olive oil and massage it in. Moving the glove open and closed. Do with your hand in the glove and open and close it too.

Then after 20 to 30 of this. Wrap the outer pinky part of the glove around the ball into and under the thumb. Wrap it with the runner bands. Put it anywhere overnight.

Should be good to go for initial breaking in. Actual breaking in happens when you catch and play with it too.

You’re right, and I usually do that to break in a glove. I lost my old glove and I had to break this one in quickly. I tried a new method and it failed.
You took “Hot Stove” a bit too literally
I have a very hard time believing you didn’t smell this before it got to this point. It’s got holes in the fingers this shit was probably smoking out of the oven setting off the smoke alarm.
No, I smelled it burning. It still had 7 minuets to go.
Did you see this work on Ticktok?
I have never used TikTok. In fact, I have refused to ever use TikTok, SnapChat, and Twitter (despite starting an account to enter some contest for The Walking Dead years ago). I just feel like some platforms attract certain personality types that I try to avoid when I’m relaxing.
Have you been diagnosed as being on the spectrum yet?
No. I’ve been evaluated and I was not diagnosed with autism.
he’s not wrong though. they are toxic cesspools.

I’ve used the oven method for two different gloves, but used shaving cream on the first one and a specific treatment foam on the second one. It’s been 10 years since I last played, but I remember putting it on a cookie sheet and we turned the oven off before placing the glove in.

Sucks this happened to ya. Hopefully somebody around you has a spare you can borrow until you can figure out a replacement and get it broken in.

Shaving cream then crank oven to 400, turn off and glove in is how I did all mine as a youth
You didn’t pre heat the oven, exposing the glove to the oven’s full power. It needed to already be hot before the glove went in.
No, I preheated it. It was at 350F before I placed it in the oven. Maybe the glove is just cheap. Maybe the method works on 100% leather gloves.
It’s not a lie, it’s a prank. I sympathize, but baking a baseball glove at 350 degrees is simply absurd.