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NachorellaYou can indeed. But growing cotton has already resulted in environmental changes beyond my comprehension.
I guess the first step should be to adapt a habit of clothes repair
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Hemp and also linen are even harder to grow than cotton, though much of it is due to not as advanced machinery for harvesting and processing. Hemp also sucks as a material for clothing, to make it wearable you have to treat it quite heavily or it’s scratchy AF.
Taking production out of the equation linen is the best material of the three: Much better moisture regulation than cotton, only real downside is that it crinkles easily but it also crinkles elegantly so wear it with pride and you’ll be fine.
Production-wise the best alternative right now is modal, that is, basically, synthesised cotton, raw material is anything that contains cellulose. Nasty chemicals are involved but in modern processes it’s all closed-loop, the nasty stuff all stays within the factory.
Oh, one often overlooked factor: Seams. Modal is better than cotton at being yarn because the cellulose fibres are much longer but nothing compares to the likes of polyester when it comes to not coming apart. I don’t think there’s an alternative yet, either you use polyester and make the whole garment non-biodegradable or you use modal and live with the reduced durability. Though one idea would be to aggressively get rid of seams, you can knit yarn into any shape whatsoever. Wait: Silica thread is a thing. Usually only used for extreme applications (think firefighter gear), also uses some chemicals to make it usable in sewing machines and it just won’t ever hold a knot so when it comes apart it comes apart completely, but it’s essentially fancy stone, just like computer chips: Doesn’t really biodegrade but it doesn’t matter that it doesn’t, either.
Another overlooked factor is stretch. There’s no natural alternative to elasthan, so no yoga pants or stretch jeans. Tons of stuff nowadays contains elasthan, often just a bit for a tiny bit of stretch simply because it’s more comfortable.
Norah (pup/it/she)Sure, it’s different to cage hens. But it’s the exact kind of feed that’s used for free range farm chooks.
Edit: I literally get it at a farm supply store because it’s way cheaper than a pet shop.
gandalf_der_12teWell it’s both. Many animals can eat a very wide diverse mixture of foods. Like cows, they can eat grass, but also hay or grains. So it could be that you’re both right.
I’m not an expert though.
Australian Grain Fed Beef
Welcome to Australian Grain Fed Beef. A large part of what makes Australian beef so good is how cattle are fed and nourished in Australia. All Australian cattle are raised on grass. While some cattle spend their whole lives on grass, a large percentage (around 40%) are transitioned to a grain-based diet, resulting in the term “grain fed beef”.
scientificamerican.com/…/time-to-rethink-corn/
36% of corn grown in the US goes to feeding livestock. Not including the stuff you’re talking about like byproducts from ethanol and such.
You forget that the food required to make even small quantities of meat is much higher than just growing plants for human. Better to directly eat the energy produced by autotrophs. Deforestation doesn’t happen in “poor countries” just so people can survive, it happens because corporations lobby the government of corrupt countries like Brazil so they can destroy habitats for feed and pastures.
Meat production is a simple maths problem to see that wasted energy used by livestock (to survive and grow) is lost energy.
oatscoopDude, I live in the midwest USA. The number one crop in this area is dent corn: 40% goes into ethanol production, and 36% is used for animal feed
www.sciencedirect.com/…/S2211912416300013
86% of the global livestock feed intake in dry matter consists of feed materials that are not currently edible for humans
But it also makes an important contribution to food security through the provision of high-quality protein and a variety of micronutrients – e.g. vitamin A, vitamin B-12, riboflavin, calcium, iron and zinc – that can be locally difficult to obtain in adequate quantities from plant-source foods alone
Just because they feed corn doesn’t mean it’s edible to humans, a lot of the corn grown is left to dry on the plant and then harvested. We do this so we don’t end up with another famine. Not saying corn is what we should be growing for that, but it’s a very easy and hardy plant.
It’s brought up because it’s true.
You’re pretty funny, before you said they only graze, then you said we simply don’t grow food for cattle, now you’ve admitted we do based on some random dude pulling 5% out of a hat.
They cite a paper that puts the land used purely for growing feed at about 38% of our cropland. If you combine it with grazing land it goes up to about 80%. Cropland for food humans eat is just 16%.
Almost half (44%) of the world’s habitable land is used for agriculture.
Habitable land is not the same as the ability to grow food on it.
The UN FAO does not provide breakdowns of the amount of land directly devoted to feed, food, and industrial production. It does provide this in tonnage terms, however, converting this to area estimates is complex, especially when co-products are considered.
So most stats that are pulled out of someones ass, because they came up with a system that says all feed we provide to animals is more than the tonnage we eat ourselves. No shit we feed way more grain to a 2k lb cow. It’s 2k fucking lbs. It doesn’t even provide a breakout of what isn’t actually human consumable, because it’s bullshit stats.
If we combine global grazing land with the amount of cropland used for animal feed, livestock accounts for 80% of agricultural land use.
And if I combine the road as part of my land in front of my farm I have more land…this is fucking stupid. Grazing land is not usually suitable for plants. It’s why crops are not planted usually in places that are rocky or have to many hills.
You’re source is bullshit.
Habitable land is not the same as the ability to grow food on it.
Umm yeah? No one said it was.
So most stats that are pulled out of someones ass, because they came up with a system that says all feed we provide to animals is more than the tonnage we eat ourselves. No shit we feed way more grain to a 2k lb cow. It’s 2k fucking lbs. It doesn’t even provide a breakout of what isn’t actually human consumable, because it’s bullshit stats.
When talking about feed grown specifically for livestock it doesn’t actually matter if it’s human consumable or not, it’s land that could be used to grow human consumable food. They make the distinction between cropland and grazing land pretty clear.
Also you don’t just get to dismiss science when it doesn’t suit whatever you think. You asked for numbers, there they are.
And if I combine the road as part of my land in front of my farm I have more land…this is fucking stupid. Grazing land is not usually suitable for plants. It’s why crops are not planted usually in places that are rocky or have to many hills.
You’re source is bullshit.
There are things that can be done with grazing land other than planting crops and almost all of them are better for the environment than having livestock graze on it. They are just talking about the total land at that point, not trying to convince you of anything, stop reading everything so defensively.
And also it’s a pretty credible source and it’s definitely better than your anecdotal ‘we literally don’t grow food for cattle at all, ever’ nonsense.
We use more than twice as much land to grow feed for livestock than we do for humans, and the livestock only supplies 18% of global calories. It’s an inefficient use of land full stop. When there are more people we will need more efficient sources of food. This might mean farming more human food and therefore less animal feed.
www.sciencedirect.com/…/S2211912416300013
86% of the global livestock feed intake in dry matter consists of feed materials that are not currently edible for humans
But it also makes an important contribution to food security through the provision of high-quality protein and a variety of micronutrients – e.g. vitamin A, vitamin B-12, riboflavin, calcium, iron and zinc – that can be locally difficult to obtain in adequate quantities from plant-source foods alone
www.sciencedirect.com/…/S2211912416300013
86% of the global livestock feed intake in dry matter consists of feed materials that are not currently edible for humans
But it also makes an important contribution to food security through the provision of high-quality protein and a variety of micronutrients – e.g. vitamin A, vitamin B-12, riboflavin, calcium, iron and zinc – that can be locally difficult to obtain in adequate quantities from plant-source foods alone
We already make enough food to feed the planet multiple times over, the issue isn’t how much we’ve got, it’s how to get it to people. Distribution is the issue.
But no, 1/3rd is not grown for livestock, this isn’t true at all.
GloomyWhat you say is true for 5% of animal feed globaly.
100 % or this chart is made up of food we got by intentionally crushing land for the meat Industry. It shows how the food we feed livestock is spread across different feeding sources, not the land uses by said food source.
I poated it because the person I replied to insisted that most of the food animals are fed is just the uneatable byproduct of agricultural products made for humans. This chats shows its defnetily not the main source used to feed animals, as it only makes up about 5 %
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