Finally, an answer! - Lemmy.World

(I know this is about Rifftrax, but we don’t have a Rifftrax community.)

Have we checked all food to see if exploding them makes them into something better or did we just stop with corn?
Potatoes Apples Marijuana Bananas Tulips Etc…

Bananas are a similar one to corn too. Take something almost entirely inedible and cultivate it into something edible. Makes you wonder what convinced them to start.

Starvation was probably a good motivator

Could be. We still don’t know why people became sedentary farmers over hunter-gatherers, but it’s happened many times in history.

Somehow, farming happened independently but around the same time around the world, between 8000 and 10000 years ago. This is everywhere from Europe to the Americas to New Guinea, all apparently independently of each other!

Saying we don’t know is kinda dumb though, farming allows a population group to massively outperform a hunter gatherer group in terms of food and energy collected over a year, this allows them to have more children, and results in fewer deaths due to accidents while hunting. Farming also means fewer people are required for the same amount of food intake leaving more people free to do other things like develop tools and weapons

This all snowballs resulting in massive growth that allows the farming group to kill off or absorb any group that doesn’t farm.

Same as natural selection/evolution, random choices/changes occur and the ones that lead to more children are the ones that last 1000s of years.

Actually, farming underperformed compared to hunter-gathering, which allowed for more food to be gathered and more leisure time to be spent.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3917328/

Hunter–gatherers have less famine than agriculturalists

The idea that hunter–gatherer societies experience more frequent famine than societies with other modes of subsistence is pervasive in the literature on human evolution. This idea underpins, for example, the ‘thrifty genotype hypothesis’. ...

PubMed Central (PMC)
If I’m going off my own experience and behaviors, I would assume that laziness made it seem like simply planting things would take less effort than hunting down an animal without doing hard calculations on total calories in/out and without imagining what could go wrong with the “lazy” approach.

I don’t think you understand how hard it is to plow a field without draught animals. They didn’t have domestic horses or oxen when farming began. It was incredibly hard work vs. just cutting down wild plants and shooting animals with animals or hitting them with spears. And, of course, processing grains by hand before milling was invented was also very hard work. You can’t just eat wheat as-is. You have to turn it into flour and cook with it.

The “lazy” people would be the ones who didn’t want to do all of that and instead just walk around the woods until they saw a deer and then shoot it.

The biggest advantage of agriculture over hunter-gathering is storage during cold or dry seasons when foraged food could be harder to come by, but it is not clear that this was an advantage of farming or the reason for it.

This isn’t even something we have to infer from ancient peoples. There have been studies of modern peoples that show that hunter-gatherers do not work as hard as farmers, and that is with draught animals and other techniques that were developed after the development of agriculture: cam.ac.uk/…/farmers-have-less-leisure-time-than-h…

Farmers have less leisure time than hunter-gatherers, study suggests

Hunter-gatherers in the Philippines who convert to farming work around ten hours a week longer than their forager neighbours, a new study suggests,

University of Cambridge
I’m assuming it started small and simple (perhaps just intentionally dropping seeds in a location and hoping for the best) and then problem-solving for higher yields is what led to the great amount of work in the end. It’s like how making a weapon can range from simply picking up a stick to refining and material science to mass production methods (to outfit an entire army), all the way up to splitting the atom. There’s a wide gulf between wanting to have some extra food growing in a convenient location and wanting to feed an entire village throughout the entire year solely on cultivated food.