Baltimore bridge collapses into river after being hit by cargo ship

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Baltimore bridge collapses into river after being hit by cargo ship - Lemmy.World

A portion of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore has collapsed after a large boat collided with it early on Tuesday morning, sending multiple vehicles into the water. At about 1.30am, a vessel crashed into the bridge, catching fire before sinking and causing multiple vehicles to fall into the water below, according to a video posted on X. “All lanes closed both directions for incident on I-695 Key Bridge. Traffic is being detoured,” the Maryland Transportation Authority posted on X. Matthew West, a petty officer first class for the coastguard in Baltimore, told the New York Times that the coastguard received a report of an impact at 1.27am ET. West said the Dali, a 948ft (29 metres) Singapore-flagged cargo ship, had hit the bridge, which is part of Interstate 695.

holy shit. I’ve been getting alerts about it, but that video is so much worse than I imagined.

That doesn’t look like a little repair, which is what I had assumed. That looks like the ship’s insurer is buying Baltimore a new bridge.

googles

en.wikipedia.org/…/Francis_Scott_Key_Bridge_(Balt…

The main span of 1,200 feet (366 m) was the third longest span of any continuous truss in the world.

Smooth.

The bridge, at an estimated cost of $110 million

Construction of the Outer Harbor Bridge began in 1972, several years behind schedule and $33 million overbudget.

So $143 million in 1972 dollars…

www.usinflationcalculator.com

$1.06 billion in 2024 dollars.

EDIT:

www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9697428

95k ton displacement.

imo.org/…/Convention-on-Limitation-of-Liability-f…

Convention on Limitation of Liability for Maritime Claims (LLMC)

The Convention provides for a virtually unbreakable system of limiting liability.  Shipowners and salvors may limit their liability, except if “it is proved that the loss resulted from his personal act or omission, committed with the intent to cause such a loss, or recklessly and with knowledge that such loss would probably result”.

The limit of liability for property claims for ships not exceeding 2,000 gross tonnage is 1 million SDR.

* For larger ships, the following additional amounts are used in calculating the limitation amount: 

  • For each ton from 2,001 to 30,000 tons, 400 SDR 

  • For each ton from 30,001 to 70,000 tons, 300 SDR

  • For each ton in excess of 70,000, 200 SDR

So that’d be 29,200,000 SDR.

www.imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_sdrv.aspx

1.325610 US dollars per SDR.

So about a $39 million limit on marine liability for a ship of that size, or under 4% of the price of the bridge.

Maybe Baltimore taxpayers are gonna be buying Baltimore a new bridge.

EDIT2: I wonder how owners of larger ships managed to get lower per-ton liability limits than owners of smaller ships.

EDIT3: Oh, wait. Apparently the US isn’t party to that treaty. Sounds like the US uses law even more favorable to the shipowner.

iclg.com/practice-areas/…/usa

The United States is not a party to the 1976 Convention on Limitation of Liability for Maritime Claims.  Instead, the United States continues to apply the Limitation of Liability Act (the Limitation Act), passed in 1851 to encourage investment in shipping.  Under this Act, vessel owners (including demise charterers) may limit liability to the value of the vessel and pending freight in certain circumstances where the loss occurred without the privity or knowledge of the owner.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Limitation_of_Liability_Act_of…

The Act was passed by Congress on March 3, 1851 to protect the maritime shipping industry; at the time, shipowners were subject to loss from events beyond their control such as storms and pirates, so the Act was designed to limit the shipowners’ liability to the value of the vessel. Without it, American shipping was “at a competitive disadvantage” compared to other maritime countries where similar limitations applied.[1]: 260 

Section 3 of the 1851 Act states “the liability of the owner or owners of any ship or vessel … shall in no case exceed the amount or value of the interest of such owner or owners respectively, in such ship or vessel, and her freight then pending”.

I guess if you’re gonna knock down a bridge with a container ship, the US is probably a good place to do it.

Francis Scott Key Bridge (Baltimore) - Wikipedia

US uses law even more favorable to the shipowner.

Color me surprised.

I appreciate the research and sources you’ve listed here. Its quite interesting from an impact perspective.

I am guessing these liability limits are for the cargo, not any damage caused by the ship. If shippers had to ensure everything they shipped for “storms and pirates” in the 1800’s, then they probably wouldn’t be able to do usiness So there is a limit to what shippers would owe their clients if a ship got captured or wrecked. Those clients would need their own insurance if they wanted to be made whole in the event of a catastrophe.

What happens next is likely to be the result if the investigation. If this was a freak mechanical failure, and the boat’s maintenance was otherwise up to date, then maybe the State won’t be able to go after the boat’s owners. But if there’s any inkling that there was negligence in the maintenance of the boat, or in the piloting of it, the the State is going to go after the company for all it can. Depending on what they find, there might even be criminal charges.

I am guessing these liability limits are for the cargo, not any damage caused by the ship

The article about the treaty is explicitly talking about damage to things ships hit:

Under the 1976 Convention, the limit of liability for claims covered is raised considerably, in some cases up to 250-300 per cent.  Limits are specified for two types of claims - claims for loss of life or personal injury, and property claims (such as damage to other ships, property or harbour works).

Ok, I stand corrected then. They’re gonna have to sell a lot of crab cakes to fix that bridge…
Ahhh yes corporate arbitration lawyers. They shall be among the first to be flayed in the uprising.

the liability of the owner or owners of any ship or vessel … shall in no case exceed the amount or value of the interest of such owner or owners respectively, in such ship or vessel, and her freight then pending".

I think that’s probably way more than $39 million.

The Ever Given that got stuck in the Suez Canal was worth about $125 million carrying about $600 million in cargo. It had a capacity of 20,000 TEU (twenty foot equivalent units).

This MV Dali has a capacity of about 10,000 TEU and was carrying 4700 containers. I think no matter how you slice it, the value of the ship and its cargo would be in the hundreds of millions.

Feds are going to pay for it
The feds will front the money to start clearing the harbor and fixing the bridge as soon as possible, but I’d think that they’re gonna go after the ship for whatever they can recover. They have whole offices of lawyers who go after liable parties for costs they end up covering.
The bridge is just gone now, one tap and the whole thing fell like dominos!
Those constructions rely on all parts being where they are, otherwise the whole thing collapses. You’d need a different kind of bridge for the single stretches to be independent.

It’s bad enough that the transportation infrastructure is falling apart across the country due to poor maintenance. But when the bridge was built in the 1970s, I don’t think container ships that big even existed. It’s the same problem with old roads and modern cars or old airports and modern jets.

I hope that whatever replaces the Key Bridge is designed to fail in segments and take a good beating before it does.

That would be extremely expensive. I think that money would be better spent toward getting ships to not hit the bridge at all.
The bridge knows where it is, because it knows where it isn’t.
It would say most construction projects rely on a boat not ramming into it

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Skyway_Bridge

The southbound span (opened in 1971) of the original bridge was destroyed on the morning of May 9, 1980, when the 606 ft (185 m) freighter MV Summit Venture collided with a support column during a sudden squall, causing the catastrophic failure of over 1,200 ft (370 m) of the span.

Governor Bob Graham’s idea to build a “signature” cable-stayed bridge with a span that would be 50% wider than that of the old Skyway Bridge won out over other proposals. In addition to a wider shipping lane, the channel would be marked by a 1⁄4 mi (400 m)-long series of large concrete barriers, and the support piers would be protected by massive concrete “dolphins”.

Florida apparently isn’t relying on that anymore.

Sunshine Skyway Bridge - Wikipedia

Boat hills can’t melt steel beams
Just to illustrate the point, this is no "tap". A cargo ship like that hitting something is about the same momentum as 14 loaded Boeing 787s hitting something at 800 km/h, simultaneously.
283 million pound “tap”
will this close down one of the biggest ports on the East Coast?
As soon as the investigation is finished, they’ll get on removing the debris. That area has no shortage of transportation engineering companies. I’m sure people from the governor’s and mayor’s respective offices are already reaching out to line up inspections and eventual bids. Once the investigation is over, their top goal will be getting the port opened up.
They aren’t going to wait for an investigation.
Yeah DOT confirmed the port of Baltimore is closed to sea traffic, local truck traffic from port is still active so the closure won’t be felt immediately. But it will be significant the longer it’s closed. 9th largest port in the US.
Yes, and they won’t for the moment.
Yeah they won’t get by, in bound traffic will reroute to Norfolk, Philadelphia and NY until a plan is in place. I would guess they have the channel open in 2 weeks or less.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Baltimore

Currently, the port has major ro-ro (roll-on roll-off) facilities and bulk facilities, especially steel handling. The port handles around 700,000 vehicles annually. Most Mercedes-Benz cars that are imported into the U.S were handled here as well in 2004.

The Port handles one-fourth of the country’s coal exports.

Port of Baltimore - Wikipedia

There was a live-stream where you can scrub to the minute where the bridge is gone in the thumbnail to see the impact. The Ship apparently lost all the lights 2-3 times shortly before impact. Maybe it was a problem with that. We also noticed a lot of hacking activities in the last weeks. Maybe it was that.
Port of Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland USA | StreamTime LIVE

YouTube
Better to wait for more details to come out than to speculate wildly.
Idk I’m going with space lasers and you can’t convince me otherwise.
FBI confirms not an act of terrorism rn
Yeah, not everything bad that happens is intentional despite how much some people want that to be the case.

A guy at work showed me the footage on his phone. Whatever shit news site he was pulling from had the headline, “DEI focus by The transportation department under Pete buttigiege results in bridge collapse”.

They didn’t even wait half a day to start lying.

Wow, that was a wild shot of the collapse.
Here’s a quick take on the cause of the crash:
. Ship power cut off and the pilot panicked and threw engines into reverse (as seen by engine exhaust) . ‘Prop walk’ turned the ship starboard into the bridge support
It doesn’t look like it was lined up right to begin with.
It was. Just a weird angle on the camera.
A portion? That looks like the entire thing dropped.

Everything in camera collapsed, but the whole thing was 1.6 miles.

…wikipedia.org/…/Francis_Scott_Key_Bridge_(Baltim…

Francis Scott Key Bridge (Baltimore) - Wikipedia

That was pretty much the whole thing, looking at a Google Earth image of the thing:

Like, there are ramps over land that the cars drive up to get up to the bridge’s full height, but what was in the image was more-or-less the portion that was over the water.

Why is he listed as “amateur poet” if his work was so famous that we named a bridge after him 100 years later.
Francis Scott Key famously wrote the lyrics for the Star Spangled Banner. But professionally, he was a lawyer. :)

I had to find a map, yeah, this is going to be a major cluster fuck in the morning. It’s possible to route around it, but the next crossing is aways away:

I wonder how quickly one can get a RORO ferry up and running? That bridge isn’t gonna be rebuilt any time soon.
No joke, and I bet it was heavily used too… Better jump on those infrastructure dollars!
Even the largest ferry can’t come close to matching the capacity of a 4 lane highway bridge.
Wow really? I totally can’t believe that /s
No doubt. I don’t mean to suggest that it’d eliminate issues.
Its not the same thing at all but they got the I-35W bridge rebuilt in 13 months after the bridge collapsed into the Mississippi. Its only 1/2 mile long and the river span is of course tiny – no supports required in water.

Just looking at that map makes me crack up as someone from Ireland. Baltimore is a small town here on the south coast of Cork. Dundalk is up in Northern Ireland. Pasadena is a place in California.

I just think it’s funny when America has random place names taken from elsewhere.

Wait until you find out about Springfield…
You do realize how little that narrows things down.
And there’s a Brooklyn Park in Maryland, Minnesota, Oregon, and South Australia.
Cultural appropriation is US culture. The UK and Ireland were just some of the earliest donor countries.
Thank your ancestors for that. Couldn’t think up any new names on their way over so they resused a bunch.
Cecil Calvert, 2nd Baron Baltimore - Wikipedia

Thank your ancestors for that.

Well, his ancestors’ cousins, at any rate.